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Re: My 2nd Theory on VIC Chokes of different values
« Reply #32 on: November 25, 2011, 00:47:03 am »
It operates just like the power supply in a computer....you have a +12v rail and -12v rail and you can combine them to give you +24v. Here's another simulation with the two voltages 180* out phase and you will get the same results.
(http://www.globalkast.com/images/tonywoodside/V1+V2_2.png)

In the earlier diagram where you changed the polarities of the output of the VIC Transformer isn't correct. This is Stan's diagram from Birth of New Technology...he has the output labeled B+ and B-
(http://www.globalkast.com/images/stanmeyer/StanMeyer_fig3-23.gif)

This is the way the polarity should be, unlike the way you have it labeled in your diagram. You can't have two positive output back to back like you show.
(http://www.globalkast.com/images/stanmeyer/StanMeyer_fig3-23_2.gif)

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Re: My 2nd Theory on VIC Chokes of different values
« Reply #33 on: November 25, 2011, 02:54:12 am »
Tony,

Yes now thats 180 degrees! But now if you add them up in the oscilloscope they completely null out.

However i still need to argue with you about the polarity of the coil 62, actually is the contrary of what you drawn. Yes i changed for another b+ in the drawing but actually was to mean it is B+- it is - because the diode feed that end with negative voltage but the coil send a positive field over it...   

I explain to you why:

When you have the flux going in one direction and you have the two wires terminating at the same side of the core, the vector product is the same for the two wires, so both are positive terminations. does not mather the direction of the coil arrangement, only  the orientation of the windings...

You understand my point????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????   

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Re: My 2nd Theory on VIC Chokes of different values
« Reply #34 on: November 25, 2011, 03:14:11 am »
here's another simulation of the VIC Transformer that matches my real-time testing. Each voltage tested with ground reference show the voltage to be 180* out of phase and when you measure the voltage from B+ to B- you get the potential difference of the two voltages, meaning voltage doubling of the two single output voltages.
(http://www.globalkast.com/images/tonywoodside/5vic_voltage.png)

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Re: My 2nd Theory on VIC Chokes of different values
« Reply #35 on: November 25, 2011, 14:29:05 pm »
Please forgive me, if i insist, i just want help you to not make the same mistakes i did in the past...
 
Did you understood the coil polarity? Did you understood why it must be like this? Anyone else understood, (learned) how to determine the polarity of a coil in a given magnetic varying field?

Think of the most repeated argument meyer used, about electronic circuit...


I guess now its the time to public reverse my opinion about meyer process.. i always stated: its resonance thus it needs amps... but now that i think that i understood it, i got to report, its only high voltage but almost Zero amps. However I'm not saying there isn't high current on the process of making this. Nor that is low amps cause the resonance is about a high inductance and small capacitance... Is an amp restriction mechanism..

The high voltage is not the essence, the essence is actually the same of (conservation of momentum) two people pushing them selfs while sitting on ice, if both have the same masses, both achieve the same velocity for a given impulse. however if one has a bigger mass and the other a tiny one, the individual, with lower mass, will get higher velocity than the one with the larger mass for a given impulse. In this case, mass is or is what causes amp restriction, velocity is potential. So if you create a big mass reference, you can jump on space from it and achieve a higher velocity than it. However the important is that the center of mass will always remain at the same point!!! Major property!  R(position vector) * M (sum of all masses) = ∑(mi*ri) (Sum of all individual masses multiplied by its individual position... so R=(∑(mi*ri))/M

Is the same for electricfields...  They walk in the reverse direction of the electrons...

The bifilar chokes can't have 40kv between the wires, i guess this is obvious for all... This was what lead me to discover that stan was talking about opposing fields in the chokes and was for real...

The vic matrix circuit is the closer stan arrived from telling us the true... however he don't show the polarities in it.

The vic impedance network is there to confuse, as the amps are getting "restricted" only by the shorted turns segment of the choke... actually having this short circuited section, both orientations would do it teoretically ...maybe thats why he never used the polarities of the chokes on the drawings..(of course first of all protection) because first one should understand the reason of the polarities and than, that theres even other ways to restrict the amps...       



 


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Re: My 2nd Theory on VIC Chokes of different values
« Reply #36 on: November 29, 2011, 08:49:06 am »
Do you not understand mathematics and basic physics?
If you have +12v and -12v then the potential difference is 24.
(-12v) <------------0------------>(+12) The distance from the -12 to the +12 is 24 places.
In physics, if the molecule is represented as the 0 and you have a force of -12 on one side and another force of +12 on the other side, what do you think will happen? It will pull the molecule apart. Just like if you were to take and connect chains to each one of your arms and then connect the chains to a device that will pull at the same rate and pressure outwards from the center. It would eventually pull you apart once the force and pressure is great enough. Basic Physics and Mathematics!

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Re: My 2nd Theory on VIC Chokes of different values
« Reply #37 on: November 29, 2011, 10:15:43 am »
I'm a bachelor physics student. And i'm referring to the chokes, only. (Vo-Vn) performs work... 
12-12=0 in terms of circuit impedance gives 0volts... as is clear...  0 volts divided by whatever resistance = 0 power consume. Of course if you send |+12v|    +    |-12v| you will get 24v of potential difference... I'm not talking about this part. This alone won't give any difference from electrolysis...  yet this part is still needed for the completion of the system.

See: Vic matrix circuit memo426 and than re read again the memo 420

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Re: My 2nd Theory on VIC Chokes of different values
« Reply #38 on: November 29, 2011, 14:53:00 pm »
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Re: My 2nd Theory on VIC Chokes of different values
« Reply #39 on: November 29, 2011, 15:36:46 pm »
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