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Re: Waterfuelcell resonance action discoverd
« Reply #16 on: September 12, 2009, 13:04:17 pm »
Next tests are done. Same frequencys (between 1 and 40khz) as earlier. Same water. New water. With and without Naoh.

I used a 2n3055 transistor, which is ofcourse a different type of switch. No fancy diodes build etc.

As you can see, the voltage starts with a ring and thats what i also saw on the FET. However, the effect lasted very shortly with the FET.
The second interesting observation is that at the start of the off periode, you see a big/hugh negative dip on the scope. Thats exactly the same as with the FET, but someway the FET is demping the dip and that results in that nice ringing.
The transistor doesnt have all those demping diode stuff.

The question is now: Where does that hugh dip come from?
Is that the dip Stan Meyer was extracting?
More to come.

Steve

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The other picture was taken with the same 2n3055 but higher in frequency ( ca. 1mhz). That took the first ringing in an upwards wave and as soon as that ring was done, the off time started of the 50% DUTY.








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Waterfuelcell resonance action discoverd: OU results...
« Reply #17 on: September 12, 2009, 20:37:19 pm »
The idea of using this negative dip in comby with coils is exact what Stan and Dave did with the alternator schematics.

If you use  as Input of the coils a 50% duty then the output of my setup is strait DC.
The current on input is almost half of the current that goes into the waterfuelcell.
Voltage is input 50% and on the waterfuelcell strait dc but lower, of course.

Here are numbers. Make up your minds.

Input coils:
6.98V/2 x 0.14A = 0.49Watts

Input waterfuelcell:
2.57V x 0.26A = 0.67Watts

Thats 36% more out then in, is it.
Anyway, i think the dip is re-used in this coil setup.



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Re: Waterfuelcell resonance action discoverd
« Reply #18 on: September 13, 2009, 02:41:34 am »
hmm? where does the dip come from again?

you are putting in positive DC voltage and you get a negative dip? is this what you mean?

you caught my attention, tell me more :)

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Re: Waterfuelcell resonance action discoverd
« Reply #20 on: September 13, 2009, 09:54:32 am »
hmm? where does the dip come from again?

you are putting in positive DC voltage and you get a negative dip? is this what you mean?

you caught my attention, tell me more :)

Donald,

Yes, thats what i mean.
Why is this triggering you?


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Re: Waterfuelcell resonance action discoverd
« Reply #21 on: September 13, 2009, 10:43:56 am »
They say that the tubes are having a magnetic field.
Am i right?
So, if there is a current in the tubes that creates a magnetic field, then the magnetic field collapses like a coil, is it?

Anybody agree on this?

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Re: Waterfuelcell resonance action discoverd
« Reply #22 on: September 13, 2009, 12:40:39 pm »
Isnt this simply a case of feeding the cell with said resonant frequency and seeing what happens, rather than wondering where it comes from etc?
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Re: Waterfuelcell resonance action discoverd
« Reply #23 on: September 13, 2009, 15:03:53 pm »
What causes the negative dip, you guess it might be back emf from the tubes? I'm probably more confused than anything, I just wouldn't expect to see that.