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Re: 6watts and 8 liters HHO per minute...........
« Reply #232 on: December 15, 2018, 20:34:28 pm »
Im still researching Offline, because there is a lot od "distractions" and disinformation.
Im following what I see it does, based on Meyer desciptions, not following Ronnie talkie stupid theories.
One step a time, form the earlier devices of electrical polarization process, following patents lectures and the technical brief.
People thing that they will do magic just tuning the LC... lol
My experiments showed me that, at least with water in the cell it will act as a pure resistance, more than that I will not say about that.
The Second pulse of the colapsing inductor(s) and the step charge I can confirm, but it is not related to the cell capacitance.


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« Reply #233 on: December 15, 2018, 20:45:00 pm »
Look close to the VIC Matrix circuit description on the tech. brief:

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Is this a real capacitor reactance or is just a resistive value?

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« Reply #234 on: December 15, 2018, 20:45:36 pm »
I am going to emphasize most of my understanding is from my own experiments.  There are only a few pieces of information that Ronnie introduced that helped me bring all my own work together.  I'm not just repeating Ronnie's ideas as you've seen some of my work that I did long before I met Ronnie, which was only 5 years ago.  Most of my experimenting was well before that.  But I will also give credit where credit is due.

I'm not here to argue.  So, I'll gracefully step aside for now.

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« Reply #235 on: December 15, 2018, 20:46:46 pm »
Look close to the VIC Matrix circuit description on the tech. brief:

(https://i.postimg.cc/G3GY1qVB/cap-react.gif)

Is this a real capacitor reactance or is just a resistive value?

Real capacitive reactance.  It's why I stated to do research on it.

Remember there are two steps to making this work.

The first involves the water resistance.

The second involves capacitive reactance.

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« Reply #236 on: December 15, 2018, 20:52:37 pm »
Lol what is the Rs+Re?
Is this  a real reactance to you?

Rs - The coil wire resistance
Re - The resistive value of water (supposed to be 78.54 ohm)

Look, Im not here do do some "di.ck  comparisons" but to talk about the facts.
If you think that the cell acts as a real capacitor, just hook it to a  freq. gen. with sweep function without the inductors and measure the impedance...

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« Reply #237 on: December 15, 2018, 20:55:24 pm »
It acts like a real capacitor when there is no water in it.  We've already established that.

I've also shown a WFC that held a charge after power was disconnected.

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« Reply #238 on: December 15, 2018, 21:02:36 pm »
Timeshell, yes you are right. But in pratice you cannot convert all the water to gas to tune to the LC frequency,  water is allways entering to the cavity.
The cell with water behaves like a real capacitor below 2 Volts, up from that the electrolysis starts and the water starts to behave as a non linear load, the more you rise the voltage without restricting amps, the less the resistance and more conductivity.

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« Reply #239 on: December 15, 2018, 21:14:20 pm »
Timeshell, yes you are right. But in pratice you cannot convert all the water to gas to tune to the LC frequency,  water is allways entering to the cavity.
The cell with water behaves like a real capacitor below 2 Volts, up from that the electrolysis starts and the water starts to behave as a non linear load, the more you rise the voltage without restricting amps, the less the resistance and more conductivity.

Excellent.  I agree almost 100%.  Now, use that information to get to the next step.