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Re: 6watts and 8 liters HHO per minute...........
« Reply #208 on: December 09, 2018, 14:17:59 pm »
Both electrodes are stainless steel? the outer one looks like aluminium, or oxidized...

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Re: 6watts and 8 liters HHO per minute...........
« Reply #209 on: December 09, 2018, 14:19:55 pm »
The outer one is 316L with an oxide layer.  The inner one is 304.

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« Reply #210 on: December 09, 2018, 14:28:38 pm »
Pics of the work I've done over the past few days.  I need new coils and am waiting on some carbon fiber filament to arrive to print new bobbins.

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Re: 6watts and 8 liters HHO per minute...........
« Reply #211 on: December 09, 2018, 14:32:48 pm »
what kind of oxide layer? you deposited something specific?

Very nice still.. but i was also hoping to see some more gas.. =D but its totally fine

very good to know you are back in the team TS ... hope you are fine!


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Re: 6watts and 8 liters HHO per minute...........
« Reply #212 on: December 09, 2018, 14:34:50 pm »
No, the oxide layer built up on its own using the self resonant circuit.  It did produce more gas when the electricity was plugged in btw.

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Re: 6watts and 8 liters HHO per minute...........
« Reply #213 on: December 09, 2018, 15:56:59 pm »
It looks like its just discharging obviously because thers no voltage applied.
The geometry being tubes instead of flat plates also obviously formed a decent capacitor.
I dont know why nobody ever shows a cell being pulsed with 26 volts charging up to 1000 volts or more....thats the example Stan gave ?
The water polarizes as soon as a voltage is present...polarization simply means the hydrogen is attracted to the negative and the oxygen to the possitive....when voltage is present they become polarized...simple.

Ronnie claims to have done the same thing feeding 3 to 4 volts into his primary.  I believe it.  I have pulsed my primary with 8 to 9 volts and have had 2kV pulses going into the cell through my VIC 3 years ago.  I disconnected the lead going to the cell and manually touched it to the cell connectors and had some pretty cool sparks happening.  This was around the time that I paused my activity due to health issues.  I wasn't making any significant new videos at that time other than some wave forms on my scope.

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Re: 6watts and 8 liters HHO per minute...........
« Reply #214 on: December 09, 2018, 20:58:09 pm »
I'm hoping everyone working on this has done this, but if not, here is something you should all do.  Make a spreadsheet to define the following information.

1.  Your WFC capacitance with air.  Measure this BOTH ways as it will not be the same.
2.  Multiply  your results in step 1 by 78 to get the water capacitance value
3.  You will need the AWG spec.
4.  Based on values of steps 1 and 2, create equations to give you information to create coils that will provide resonant frequencies within the range of 100 Hz to 10 kHz for BOTH air and water capacitances for BOTH sides of the WFC.  This will mean that your chokes will have different sizes based on each side of the WFC.  While there is still water in the gap, the mismatched chokes sizes will allow current flow through the water to produce gas to replace the water.  When the water in the gap is replaced by gas, this will then allow resonance to occur with the same frequency on both sides of the WFC.
5.  Impedance matching for efficient power transfer.

Using this information, you should be able to calculate appropriate coil information that will be suitable with a low frequency when there is water in the WFC and when the water is replaced by gas in the WFC at a high frequency.
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Re: 6watts and 8 liters HHO per minute...........
« Reply #215 on: December 11, 2018, 19:35:54 pm »
Timeshell the LC circuit is supposed to be between one choke and the "capacitor" or the sum of the coils (mutual inductance) and the "capacitor"?