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Stan Meyer CoAr and FeAr gas question/discussion
« on: May 17, 2012, 07:17:05 am »
Q4 jim miller : on the CoAr, what would be the expected changes in viscosity?
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Re: Q@A 17 5 2012
« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2012, 07:26:50 am »
A4 thorzpower: Think about the meltemps of the NaF ,NaCl and NaBr and NaI salt lattices, Analogously the argonide series in the transition metals Fe,Co and Ni would be expected to show a similar increasing pattern or trend in the viscosities.The larger the average gas lattice particle the higher the viscosity.  I would use straight line interpolation as  your first approximation. However, the closer values of the atomic radii of Co and Ni may mean that there will be more similar properties in common with CoAr and NiAr than with FeAr lattices.
An early non classified report that validates  NASA interest in the magnetic gas lattice concepts mentioned in
SM89**  transcript
   Theoretical study of metal noble-gas positive ions
   Bauschlicher, Charles W., Jr.; Partridge, Harry; Langhoff, Stephen R.
   AA(NASA, Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA), AB(NASA, Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA), AC(NASA, Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA)
   Journal of Chemical Physics (ISSN 0021-9606), vol. 91, Oct. 15, 1989, p. 4733-4737. (JChPh Homepage)
Publication Date:   
   Atomic and Molecular Physics
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Bibliographic Code:   
Theoretical calculations have been performed to determine the spectroscopic constant for the ground and selected low-lying electronic states of the transition-metal noble-gas ions Var(+), FeAr(+), CoAr(+), CuHe(+), CuAr(+), and CuKr(+). Analogous calculations have been performed for the ground states of the alkali noble-gas ions LiAr(+), LiKr(+), NaAr(+), and KAr(+) and the alkaline-earth noble-gas ion MgAr(+) to contrast the difference in binding energies between the simple and transition-metal noble-gas ions. The binding energies increase with increasing polarizability of the noble-gas ions, as expected for a charge-[[/iinduced dipole bonding mechanism. It is found that the spectroscopic constants of the X 1Sigma(+) states of the alkali noble-gas ions are well described at the self-consistent field level. In contrast, the binding energies of the transition-metal noble-gas ions are substantially increased by electron correlation..............
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Re: Q@A 17 5 2012
« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2012, 08:23:19 am »
a4 thorzpower: also  you would be looking for the intensity of the nickel spectral lines to increase with time. A Mizuno-like  process would be expected in such a lattice and increased traces of nickel would be would good evidence of such.It would be similar to reports of deuterium/calciium traces found in aqueous media after the cold  fusion cells have running for some time.
novel compounds formed by laser stimuation
Proc. SPIE / Volume 4430 / Lasers in Material Sciences
Fullerene/iron complexes obtained by laser synthesis from gas/aerosol phases[/b]
Proc. SPIE 4430, 196 (2001); doi: of SPIE
Issue Date: 29 June 2001
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Re: Q@A 17 5 2012
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q4 jim miller: sandia24 thinks the rate of change would increased at higher pressure. Do you concur? I believe that such an effect is
caused by increased production, not deformation of the basic matrix. An increased external field strength and frequency of the external field coils will necessitate better shielding of the feed back coils against the bemf
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Re: Q@A 17 5 2012
« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2012, 13:11:53 pm »
A4 thorzpowe r: I believe the shielding of the feedback coils would only serve to reduce their sensitivi ty, one would consider instead the modificat ion of the feedback circuits to modify the primary containme nt and drive coils frequency and strength but leave the feedback coils unchanged .
You're only talking a six twist device here, If you were to have a 36 twist device and kept the same diameter, them the interacti on between
the pickup coils might prove to be significa nt because of the closer spacing around the epg coil. Remember Stan's KISS principle .

As an example of this inductive effect David Kahn mentions that in the Berlin Stasi intercept s the carrier wave on telephone lines showed traces of the keyboard cleartext because of an inductive effect. They went to a better shielding of their rotor drive coils and separate earth grounds to suppress the bemf and inductive effects. So before you progress to higher twist devices, isolated grounding for the containme nt/drive coil array and the feedback coils will likely reduce the bemf interacti on. Since you are primarily concerned with controlli ng twist stablity with the feedback coils and because you would need maximum flux density for the containme nt/drive array, concern yourself with stable feedback. Isolated grounds for the coils. Free float on the injector grid circuits.

The Rodin focusing yoke if used would also likely need a Faraday cage as well as separate earth ground.  The oscillati ons or ripples on the gas vortices would likely be a BFO phenomeno n of some type. I'll run it though AI on Monday for possible solutions and possibili ties

Q4  sandia24 .Theoreti cally,  I think the atomic lattice spacing would be a constant within the lattice fragments but lattice fragments might be more dense per unit volume as the argon carrier "Stan's lubricant and insulator"  is being compresse d. An analogy to quicksand is appropria te. As  long as there is sufficien t water the sand slurry exhibits cohesion and has thixotrop ic propertie s. As long as there is sufficien t carrier(water) and agitation the slurry flows freely. As water is withdrawn or agitation subsides the quicksand sets up or thickens, but the underlyin g structure of the sand particle is not changed. In the case of FeAr, the lattice fragments are like the sand and whatever process is occurring within the lattice (or the spin arrangeme nt within) is not changed. The argon carrier is like the water but in this case the argon is compressi ble whereas the water is not. The compressi bility of the argon would allow for the lattice fragments to be closer together and increase output because of higher magnetic flux density. Thus energy output would be increased but not because of increased rate of reaction within the FeAr lattice particles but only because of a greater concentra tion of FeAr lattice (IE sand)per unit volume of the magnetic gas slurry.

A4 hermann:    why 6? : it may have to do with centers of gas vortices being equally spaced around the inside of the containme nt tube and at the same time being equidista nt from the central axis of the containme nt tube. The magnetic rope would have essential ly six strands all twisted the same way and the reason for a six twist device is that the pickups would  also equally spaced around the containme nt tube
Speculati on:
Possibly being being a more stable configura tion than devices having greater twists (think benzene ring)
It might just be that six works out, just as for electrons the octet rule applies.  Your guess is as good as mine at this point.

A4 sandia24- nice build , your  tax dollars at work, oakridge2 0 shows a similar device but yours is more compact.

Q4 sandia24- in the Abrahamso n file ask your librarian for total slide count.
A4 sandia24 - i show 74 is she including title slide?
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