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Re: getting there
« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2011, 11:35:58 am »
Have you ever thought about what you have in a dead short condition?

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Re: getting there
« Reply #9 on: August 29, 2011, 16:06:59 pm »
of course

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Re: getting there
« Reply #10 on: August 29, 2011, 16:17:33 pm »
seb, no hv spikes, no power, no voltage multiplication, a slug

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Re: getting there
« Reply #11 on: August 29, 2011, 17:36:24 pm »
in a dead short condition you can pull lot of amps thru it cant you?...

All comes back to the theories i was testing in the past of my very first thread here in the forum.


I was on something cause i could push 20 amps thru the water having only 1,44v across the plates... the video you find on youtube...  named power...


The main problem is the ionic current that flows thru the water... I believe meyer was talking about this when he speaks restrict the current. Pure water is a good start, but there are other required means...
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Re: getting there
« Reply #12 on: August 30, 2011, 17:35:50 pm »
Once again SEBOSFATO is not getting the idea...
he continues to think like a simple electronics designer...
dont get confused by his posts

The Stan Meyer system MUST step charge based on the GATING timing !
The resonance is for the inductance / capacitance of the chokes... this causes AMP RESTRICTION across the water

SEBOSFATO continues to speak of tank circuits

HELLO !
 This is not a tank circuit and the standard series resonance formulas do not apply because of the DIODE !
there can be no series resonant tank circuit.... no high circulating amps...

Simply a FORCED MECHANICAL RESONANCE in the CHOKES based on their inductive capacative reactance
When the gasses start to flow the PLL tracks the feedback from the primary and keeps THE CHOKES in RESONANCE... to restrict AMPS to almost ZERO...

WE DO NOT WANT ANY CURRENT FLOWING ACROSS THE WATER FUEL CELL... THE 9 RESONANT CHAMBER TUBES ARE CONNECTED IN SERIES (MAYBE) OR THE 9 RESONANT CHAMBER TUBES ARE CONNECTED TO EACH OF THE VIC CARDS(MAYBE) THAT IS WHERE THE EXPERIMENTING NEEDS TO GO NEXT

WHATEVER YOU DO... THE IDEA IS TO GET HYDROXY GAS FOR VERY LITTLE ENERGY INPUT...NOT HIGH CURRENT FARADAY ELECTROLYSIS

SIMPLE IONIC CHARGING THAT PULLS THE WATER APART, WITH NO CURRENT.
why cant sebosfato understand that this forum is going in that direction... i mean he can post and do what ever he wants, but to confuse the issue is intolerable.
please stop confusing people...
have a nice day


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Re: getting there
« Reply #13 on: August 30, 2011, 18:11:38 pm »
just wanted to help. some others know what i'm talking about.




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Re: getting there
« Reply #14 on: August 30, 2011, 18:31:31 pm »
Dear Ali:
The gating is one of the confusing parts, I've heard some say meyer would pulse for a period of time and then gate off for a period of time and be making gas during the off period, like 90 seconds if I remember.  Then I've seen his diagram of the five pulses and an off period and five pulses, etc.  I can make gas, not much, but some gas with the iron wire chokes at 12v and at zero amps.  Nice high 2kv+ ptp voltage with a square wave seen at the tube.  When tuned to a resonant waveform with this setup with a nice v shaped ac signal gas production goes away and ptp drops way down.  The gating may relate to the proton spin and pulling effect and timing of that like Tony suggests.  I'm using purified RO water and making gas at nearly zero amps but I still think it is normal electrolysis.  Meyer used 25ma to 10 ma across the gap with 12v in I think, but I could be wrong.  I also think the gating period is what is to be tuned.  I can't get the phase shift yet so I'm still working on that.
Anyone can run amps through water and make gas.  We are indeed trying to duplicate meyer's system yet when we see super high ptp voltages it is a condition of the switch off spikes producing damping off or ringing waveforms, that in itself demonstrates a tank effect of the bounce back and forth of the signal in the system.  How to get Tony's plus and minus 180 degree phase shift with high kv opposing voltages is a mystery to me.
 
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Re: getting there
« Reply #15 on: August 30, 2011, 18:43:36 pm »
Well, no current would be nice, is it.. :)

Anybodys input is welcome here, Ali. We appriciate Sebosfato,s input.
Thank you for yours ;)


Steve