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Re: Gated Frequency Generator
« Reply #16 on: March 26, 2011, 00:20:12 am »
All of the bobbin cavities have to match in inductance with the primary coil’s inductance for the desired frequency the user is aiming for. This way makes sure that all coils hit resonance at the same time. Since the primary has the strongest magnetic field it leads the way for all other magnetic fields to add to its magnetic field strength.

So something like this, The gate frequency matches the resonance of the coils and the 2nd resonant frequency matches the resonance of the water. So the 2nd resonant frequency is inside the gated frequency.

Example. Say the coils resonate @ 500 Hz and the water resonates at 5khz. So you would superimpose a 500 hz frequency over the 5khz so that the coils and water hit resonance at the same time!!!

In this example the Sec = 1H, L1 = 1H, L2 = 1H, which gives Ltotal = 3H and the capacitor would equal 3.38nF. This would make the resonant frequency of the coils 500 Hz and the cell 5khz and they would hit resonance at the same time.
Gated Pulse = 500 Hz
PLL Freq. = 5kHz
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Re: Gated Frequency Generator
« Reply #17 on: March 26, 2011, 01:46:48 am »
the biggest clue i think is in tony's picture, although as he added his own picture on the bottom he changed the shape of the step charging curve, and i think the original shape of the step charging curve provides the clue


tony's drawing shows a capacitor being charged in one pulse, with the time broken up by the time constants, and it is a smooth, continuous curve, however that is not what stan draws


stan draws each pulse of the step charge like a new capacitor is being charged on top of the previous pulse, what this means is that the dielectric properties change after each pulse, as if to add more capacitance, look at the second step charge pulse, the shape as if a empty capacitor is being charged, and not a continuation of the previous charing profile


this indicates that the water charges up, it's dielectric properties increase, as he points out so clearly in the switzerland video


so again, water is a dielectric. the dielectric properties come from the polar nature of the water molecule, which has lone pair electrons on one side, and hydrogen on the other, and if you research Debye, who did the original research on waters dielectric constant he indicates that the electric dipole moment of water is largely due to this lone pair electrons, and these electrons have a great ability to swing position farther from the oxygen, thus increasing the dipole moment when in the electric field,


as the dipole moment changes when the water is stressed, it acts to increase the capacity of the cell, which is why it looks like more capacitance is being added with each step charging pulse, but it adds up to a diminishing increase, until it is fully charged up, or where breakdown would occur


then comes the gate pulse which allows the water to relax, restructure, it allows the gas to join up and form O2 and H2, and recapture electrons to become neutralized, and float out, otherwise with the eec, the particles are kept monatomic and charged, and deflected around the cell even more during pulsing to increase the collision rates, as in the stacked cavity unit


but the water has to relax, recover, restructure, and the gas has to escape and be replenished with more water


also, in the resonant cavity patent, and the 661 patent, he says the pulse frequency can be matched to the wavelength of the movement of the particles between the plates, and this can be done with either the pulse frequency or the gate frequency


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Re: Gated Frequency Generator
« Reply #18 on: March 26, 2011, 01:49:16 am »
Ok, I just read through some of Meyer's patents and papers and from what he says is that  the Gated Pulse Frequency is to increase the applied Voltage Potential.

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Re: Gated Frequency Generator
« Reply #19 on: March 26, 2011, 02:01:20 am »
ok so we use the LC Resonance to give us the High Voltages needed...So we then produce a gate pulse cuz we have the high voltages in the cell and when we gate we allow the voltage to do its work on the water?

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Re: Gated Frequency Generator
« Reply #20 on: March 26, 2011, 02:14:56 am »
Tony,I wouldn't say that the gating increases the applied voltage.We already have the high voltage from the LC resonance.It doesn't need to be raised anymore.
 
Your second post is closer yet.
 
What do we need to do with the manually adjusted gate signal now that we have voltage?
 
We are no longer talking about resonance with the LC circuit,it no longer applies here,remember it was only for making the voltage.
 
What would the gate frequency now need to do with the voltage to get the water to pull apart?
 
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Re: Gated Frequency Generator
« Reply #21 on: March 26, 2011, 02:17:32 am »
yea me and Outlaw were just talking about this and we remember Stan saying this in one of his videos: "also when you hit resonance and subject it to the stimulation of the pulse voltage and then switch it off then the hydrogen will continue to be produced on the power off put stage.. a example being that once you hit resonance you could excite it for 5 seconds and your produning gas for 94 seconds.. you divide 5 into 94 and you are producing hydrogen gas 19 times more one the power off stage then on the power input stage.."

so the pulses are not longer needed so then we gate and let the voltage produce the gas!

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Re: Gated Frequency Generator
« Reply #22 on: March 26, 2011, 02:22:45 am »
that resonant action stan is talking about for 94 seconds is when you match the pulses to the movement of the particles between the plates to match their motion, as he says right after that, if you leave it on, and leave it alone, hydrogen gas will increase at a geometrical progression until you have reached the maximum flow rate going into the resonant cavity, which has nothing to do with gating, unless the gating is being used to match the motion of the water, but it can't do both

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Re: Gated Frequency Generator
« Reply #23 on: March 26, 2011, 02:24:31 am »
The gate will allow the HV to discharge into the cell