Author Topic: K.I.S.S.  (Read 2091 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Login to see usernames

  • Member
  • **
  • Posts: 121
K.I.S.S.
« on: March 10, 2011, 10:59:27 am »
Keep it simple stupid.
Turning off the switch of the covalent bond in the water molecule to allow it to disassociate the hydrogen from the oxygen to mix with ionized air and exhaust gases and injecting it into an internal combustion engine to use as the new fuel of the future.  Was this what Stan was talking about as being simple?   Has anyone released hydrogen and oxygen from water yet other than by simple electrolysis?   Has anyone injected hydrogen, oxygen, ionized air, and exhaust gases into a combustion engine and got it to run yet?   Does any aspect of this project that appears to have eluded everyone who has ever experimented with it seem simple?  Do you think Stan ran the VW on water using a simpler process and created this complex technology trail to keep someone from beating him to the market with it?  Could all of these rabbit trails that the researchers are running down be exactly what Stan wanted anyone to do to keep them from getting in front of him with this new technology?  We do know that Stan was very protective of his patent ability even to the point of not allowing the scientific community to validate his claims.  I believe that Stan ran the VW on water.  I believe that all this pseudoscience was developed as a smoke screen to guarantee that no one beat Stan to the market. I do not believe Stan was a con-man at all.  I think he was very smart businessman with the genius to keep his discovery top secret. With his ability to disguise this process and the giant energy producers of the world desire to keep this type technology from succeeding this will not be an easy egg to crack.  I do not believe there will be any magic circuit that just makes the water molecule fall apart. I don’t think there will be a combination of ionized air, hydrogen, oxygen, and exhaust gases injected into a combustion engine to go through a compression stroke mimicking the characteristics of gasoline or diesel to be ignited and used as a new form of energy either.  I think there is a clue from Stan in this K.I.S.S. statement that tips his hand to this being a simple process.  I also think the steam resonator gives another clue to the simplicity of this process.  Why would he need to invent a process for keeping his fuel from freezing when electric engine heaters already existed?  The exhaust could serve any onboard heat requirements while the engine is running. Simple is simple and the desire to find a circuit that breaks the water molecule with less energy than is required for the release of more energy is not simple.  The reason it’s not simple is because it breaks the laws of physics.  Not saying it can’t be done I’m just saying it is not simple.  Keep it simple stupid.              K.I.S.S.

Offline Login to see usernames

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero member
  • ****
  • Posts: 3630
Re: K.I.S.S.
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2011, 11:20:26 am »
I think was a great hint, in the sense that what he was doing was related to electrostatics (something you learn at school) and simple electronics (transformer, pll)... thats why he said keep it simple stupid, is not rocket science, you don't need to go calculate the quarks in each water molecule, you just need to apply high voltage fields and achieve resonance... Go for simple tasks...


I believe that the process is of very sophisticated simplicity, and the way it breaks the physics laws using its most elementary concepts is beautiful. And when will be clear to the humanity how simple was the process that everyone will become revolutionary. Why anyone thought of this before? Actually someone did, but was stop because of bigger interests.. The 1° world revolution.


Sebs

Offline Login to see usernames

  • Hero member
  • ****
  • Posts: 610
Re: K.I.S.S.
« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2011, 12:57:57 pm »
simple is as simple does

Offline Login to see usernames

  • Sr. member
  • ***
  • Posts: 349
Re: K.I.S.S.
« Reply #3 on: April 01, 2011, 05:01:14 am »
i think the steam resonater was used to keep the water from freezing when the car wasn't in use. To keep the battery from going dead, he needed a way to heat the water without using much energy.

Offline Login to see usernames

  • Member
  • **
  • Posts: 106
Re: K.I.S.S.
« Reply #4 on: April 01, 2011, 06:16:49 am »
John bo,
If you read and look at Stans work you will notice that there is the same principals in all of the stages. Its not one method to do X and then something completely different to do Y. He also states that just his cell is enough to power a car and that mixing in the exhaust and the ionized gases was part of his improvements to the efficiency of his system. It would be like making a car without knowing how an engine works... ALSO KISS principal is relative, the man was an electronics radar engineer for the US navy, i am sure there is lots of things that are simple to him but slightly more difficult to understand for someone who works at Burger King.... Also the theory breaks no Laws of Physics, it breaks the rules but not the laws. There are plenty of documented over unity reactions in physics most of these are difficult and expensive to replicate and only happen on a microscopic level. One you get some years under your skin you will understand there is rules for everyone, usually accepted as laws to prevent problems for the masses, and then there are laws for the learned.

Offline Login to see usernames

  • Sr. member
  • ***
  • Posts: 349
Re: K.I.S.S.
« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2011, 17:18:52 pm »
CrazyEwok, thats a great example. I gennerly know how and engine works and it is simple, but building one from scratch would be very complecated. 
 
johnbostick, what laws do you suggest are being broken? I've discused many of them with my professers and they can't really find a way any one of them is broken. At least from how we thing all this stuff works.
 

Offline Login to see usernames

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero member
  • ****
  • Posts: 3630
Re: K.I.S.S.
« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2011, 18:56:49 pm »
i think the steam resonater was used to keep the water from freezing when the car wasn't in use. To keep the battery from going dead, he needed a way to heat the water without using much energy.


I think that too, but it also become a good way to get instant steam for example, to use as the gas source, cause is much easier to break the bounds of gases if you think about the distances of the molecules.. there's no hydrogen bound anymore.


I found while ago a paper that tells that if you make water vapor out of acid or base solution you develop a charged vapor and the thing become like a Kelvin water dropper...


When the molecules are in gas phase the hydrogen is not attracting the negative lone pair electrons of the oxygen in the neighbor molecule there fore the oxygen electrons in the water molecule will obviously rearrange, cause there is no more hydrogen bound (the bound between molecules not atoms in the molecule) just to be clear, so as the electrons will redistribute the oxygen will certainly became less electronegative.


All this to say that vapor state would be easier to break with only fields than liquid water, but in vast amounts. So to do this a steam tech was created by stan in my opinion, to use for home heating, industrial, and many other applications.


Droplets has many exposed atoms in the boundaries, if you shot a droplet thru an electric field it elongate like stan said, like oil droplets also do, and it gets deflected in the direction of the field if i'm not wrong the positive.


So K.I.S.S. yes but this is only related to look straight to what is needed to accomplish the task and not to make rocket science of it so don't wast time is what should mean.