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Dissolve exhaust gasses in water for electrolyte - idea?
« on: October 16, 2009, 02:42:30 am »
This is just an idea that perhaps someone will test.
(Is ther a better place to post this?)

Dissolve exhaust gas in water and see how it does as an electrolyte:

CO2 + H2O ? H2CO3 (Carbonic acid) + dissolved CO2  (This is a weak acid)
C + H2O = CO (burns) + H2
Dissolved O2 (O2 will displace air: a good thing)


Thats about it; if you have a 3 way cat.
Without you also get:

NOx + H2O = 4 HNO3 (nitric acid) via a long process that includes HNO2, HNO3 and NO
CO + H2O = HCOOH (formic acid) + dissolved CO  (This is a weak acid)
Unburned HCs + H2O = ??? (Didnt someone test a mixture of fuel and water in a cell and get good results?)

You will also get a small bit of hydrogen sulfide which dissolves in water to make a solution that is weakly acidic.

Perhaps this devil's brew is by some fluke the ideal electrolyte and gives great gass production and cleans up our exhaust a little!  :D
What exactly the gas will consist of is a damn good question!  :)
Certainly H2 and O2.
Perhaps CO (burns)
Possibly Nitrogen.  :(

You may end up with carbon on the electrodes, which may or may not be good.
The gass hopefully will contain CO. (burns)

A simple test by bubbling exhaust through a bucket of water and using it in a cell would be interesting.
No idea how fast the solutes will be used up or how much of each will be in solution.  ???

So what do you think??

http://mattson.creighton.edu/H2S/H2S_Info.html
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Is_carbon_monoxide_a_acid_or_alkaline_solution
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_monoxide#Atmospheric_presence
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitrogen_oxide
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbonic_acid

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Re: Dissolve exhaust gasses in water for electrolyte - idea?
« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2009, 16:48:24 pm »
Lets run on ammonia.

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Re: Dissolve exhaust gasses in water for electrolyte - idea?
« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2009, 19:06:10 pm »
Lets run on ammonia.

Steve

....  Ke?  ??? (ala: Faulty Towers)
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Re: Dissolve exhaust gasses in water for electrolyte - idea?
« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2009, 22:04:55 pm »
Lets run on ammonia.

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Nitrogen and hydrogen = ammonia


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Re: Dissolve exhaust gasses in water for electrolyte - idea?
« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2009, 14:24:49 pm »
http://www.ecospec.com/index.html

Question:
Has anyone bothered to test the gas coming out the electrolyser?
Why are they not feeding it to the engine?

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Re: Dissolve exhaust gasses in water for electrolyte - idea?
« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2009, 09:54:18 am »
logic

nice one

try it please... ;D


thanks