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Re: Impedance Matching
« Reply #32 on: April 29, 2009, 00:49:17 am »
the resonance in the cell that stan speaks of is not as much of a electrical resonance but the frequencys at which production is most effecient.. all being determined by the chokes gated frequency.

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« Reply #33 on: April 29, 2009, 00:55:14 am »
The "capacitor" will never reach the point where it reaches "full-energy storage" , thats the problem .

The gate is as Meyers says , relaxation time , I believe him in that aspect . Makes sense to me , gas has to leave and new water must fill the space .


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« Reply #34 on: April 29, 2009, 01:14:35 am »
relaxation time  when gates open or closed?

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« Reply #35 on: April 29, 2009, 03:12:39 am »
outlaw:

quote "the resonance in the cell that stan speaks of is not as much of a electrical resonance"

every one of those equations in the patent are for electrical resoanance....and i bet if i went through stans videos i would come across a point where he actually says "electrical resonance."

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quote "The "capacitor" will never reach the point where it reaches "full-energy storage" , thats the problem"

actually it will.....or else there would be no difference between 30 ft capacitor and 3mm capacitor.......you will learn about something called farads......a a 3 inch vic can only hold a certain charge of energy regardless.

so yes there is a point in which it will reach "full-energy storage"

dankie sometimes you are the worst.....please educate yourself on the basics before diving into theoretical works......im sick of statements like "capcitors will never reach an energy capcity limit......A CAPACITOR HAS A CAPACITY AND IT CAN AND WILL BE FILLED!....take a sine wave and full wave rectify it....send it into a wfc capacitor.....you will get bubbles and see stepcharging on your scope.......it will reach a definite limit.....adn you can start it all over again after gating.

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« Reply #36 on: April 29, 2009, 03:51:17 am »
outlaw:

quote "the resonance in the cell that stan speaks of is not as much of a electrical resonance"

every one of those equations in the patent are for electrical resoanance....and i bet if i went through stans videos i would come across a point where he actually says "electrical resonance."

dankie:
quote "The "capacitor" will never reach the point where it reaches "full-energy storage" , thats the problem"

actually it will.....or else there would be no difference between 30 ft capacitor and 3mm capacitor.......you will learn about something called farads......a a 3 inch vic can only hold a certain charge of energy regardless.

so yes there is a point in which it will reach "full-energy storage"

dankie sometimes you are the worst.....please educate yourself on the basics before diving into theoretical works......im sick of statements like "capcitors will never reach an energy capcity limit......A CAPACITOR HAS A CAPACITY AND IT CAN AND WILL BE FILLED!....take a sine wave and full wave rectify it....send it into a wfc capacitor.....you will get bubbles and see stepcharging on your scope.......it will reach a definite limit.....adn you can start it all over again after gating.

The capacitor has a low resistance and in parallel and will never reach its total Coulombs capacity , it is always loosing its charge and will never reach its maximum point .

We all know the problem with this capacitor is that it cant hold a charge for squat , this "breaking point" theory never gets reached . I dont care about bubbles and what you claim to be a step-charge , show us this step charge  .



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Re: Impedance Matching
« Reply #37 on: April 29, 2009, 18:47:56 pm »
I dont care about bubbles and what you claim to be a step-charge , show us this step charge


i will show you the concept idiot.

you are highly uneducated.

i will show you the scope and the capacitor reaching its LIMIT.

then you will STFU for being a dumbass over and over.

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« Reply #38 on: April 30, 2009, 04:27:29 am »
god damnit the a time / div is too fast for my camera it has to trace the step charging wave form and i cannot get it in a photo.

so dankie instead of being some handicapped baby asking for people to prove it why don't you grab

1. full wave bridge rectification diode.

2. 2 metal objects

3. water

4. mosfet

5. a fucking battery.

take your little signal generator at a 50 percent duty cycle pulse and run it through the mosfet which draws it's power from the battery and full wave rectify it......I use an audio frequency transformer in between the mosfet and diode rectifier to isolate the 2 circuits and not damage anything.....

the bridghe rectifier will create your unipolar pulses. aka double frequency.....run that into your capacitor......now connect the positive lead of your oscope probe to the positive tube and the negative tube to the ground clip of the probe.

you will see the capactiors LIMIT CLEARLY EXISTS......

hence these statements.....there is a limit.....hence the terminology called FARADS.....a capcitor can only hold so much energy between it's plates.....there for the energy you put into the cell will reach it's limit.....if you are pumping in 99.9% potential energy it will hold that......but never more......there is CLEARLY A LIMIT......LEARN AC RESONANCE, READ....educate yourself in meyers before running off to higher levels of thought that you yourself are incapable of understanding at this moment.....you try and take these advanced theories and apply them to stans work when you haven't even educated yourself in stans theories yet.

BABY STEPS FOR BABIES.

i want you to read these.....NOT JUST THE UNDERLINED WORDS....but READ AND COMPREHEND....i know you have atleast gotten through your eng 1,2 and spc.....hopefully.
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the equations he gives are for electrical resonance....the thing though is that eq 4 is not as simple as it seems.....yes it is in fact the resonant frequency......but there are 2 frequencies inside the one final frequency.

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Re: Impedance Matching
« Reply #39 on: April 30, 2009, 19:50:20 pm »
So a single period of Pwf is the step charge from ground to peak voltage to ground again? Never seen it like this.
I considered T3 / gate as relaxation like Dankie pointed out, to discharge the cap unto itself.

Does (or should) energy from the battery get stored in or go to the wfc?
I believe not: no energy from the circuit should enter the wfc from the circuit.
But if voltage steps up, energy enters the wfc. From the water perhaps?