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Title: SPIKE'S BURTHA CELL
Post by: Login to see usernames on June 25, 2008, 13:03:17 pm
  ;D Current construction  ;D

 :o Meet Burtha !!!  :o

Ideas taking shape

Spike
Title: Re: SPIKE'S BURTHA CELL
Post by: Login to see usernames on June 25, 2008, 13:06:50 pm
Construction begins  :P

Spike
Title: Re: SPIKE'S BURTHA CELL
Post by: Login to see usernames on June 25, 2008, 13:08:33 pm
A short video


Spike
Title: Re: SPIKE'S BURTHA CELL
Post by: Login to see usernames on July 04, 2008, 06:54:53 am
 ;D Just an update  ;D

Haven't had as much time as I would like.  But I have gotten some work done.

Spike
Title: Re: SPIKE'S BURTHA CELL
Post by: Login to see usernames on July 04, 2008, 06:59:46 am
 :o VIDEO UPDATE  :o

Spike

Title: Re: SPIKE'S BURTHA CELL
Post by: Login to see usernames on July 04, 2008, 16:52:45 pm
Hi Spike,

Looks like a military rocketlauncher!
Wel made!
 ;) ;)

br
Steve
Title: Re: SPIKE'S BURTHA CELL
Post by: Login to see usernames on July 04, 2008, 18:25:32 pm
Steve

It's got just as many tubes as my Karebill 12,
Not all the tubes were seamless on my Karebill, These are.
Increased surface area 60%,
Reduced gap by 50%.
Reduced voltage loss
Maintaining flow with a livewell pump,
 That only draws 1.5 Amps
 ;D Hoping to break 700cc/min on tap h2o  ;D

The only problem I had with the karebill, was the glue seams  :'( .
So I may go another route bonding the decks to the ends.
Turtle seems to have found a good glue.
Or I may plastic weld them.

Spike
Title: Re: SPIKE'S BURTHA CELL
Post by: Login to see usernames on July 04, 2008, 23:33:12 pm
Steve

It's got just as many tubes as my Karebill 12,
Not all the tubes were seamless on my Karebill, These are.
Increased surface area 60%,
Reduced gap by 50%.
Reduced voltage loss
Maintaining flow with a livewell pump,
 That only draws 1.5 Amps
 ;D Hoping to break 700cc/min on tap h2o  ;D

The only problem I had with the karebill, was the glue seams  :'( .
So I may go another route bonding the decks to the ends.
Turtle seems to have found a good glue.
Or I may plastic weld them.

Spike


Sounds good, Spike.
And yes, Keith knows lots of mechanical stuff and solutions. He should know the right glue.

Br
Steve
Title: Re: SPIKE'S BURTHA CELL
Post by: Login to see usernames on July 05, 2008, 01:22:38 am
Uh, the glue I mentioned in the plate cell thread probably won't be the best choice in this application.

CHeck the LORD Fusor tech team for the optimal glue. http://www.ellsworth.com/gluedoctor.html

If you aren't using any caustic e-lyte, you can use model airplane epoxy, and add polyester bulking agent to get the viscosity up.  CHeck with Atlanta Hobby or any hobby shop.   Use 30 min to allow plenty of set time.

If it's simply a matter of sealing threads, Goop marine is tops, and it can be taken apart later whilst epoxy has to be heated beyond what yer PVC can stand to make it let go

Turtle
Title: Re: SPIKE'S BURTHA CELL
Post by: Login to see usernames on July 05, 2008, 06:03:26 am
Thanks Turtle

I'll check into that other glue.  ;D

Spike
Title: Re: SPIKE'S BURTHA CELL
Post by: Login to see usernames on July 05, 2008, 06:12:35 am
 ;D The basic cell is done  ;D

I still have to wire it, 
And get the plumbing installed.
I haven't glued the collars yet,
until I finish everything else.

But here is a video

And a picture of why I named it Burtha

Spike
Title: Re: SPIKE'S BURTHA CELL
Post by: Login to see usernames on July 05, 2008, 06:13:28 am
The glue I used on my latest cell is Plexus MA300 Methacrylate it is a very permanent bond. I pressurized my cell to 120 psi with no leaks. I got mine from a battery plant that I do refrigeration for.  I found this link for it. http://www.gluguru.com/Methacrylates.htm#ITWPlexus.
Title: Re: SPIKE'S BURTHA CELL
Post by: Login to see usernames on July 05, 2008, 06:44:36 am
thanks Karebill

I'll look it up. How long have you been using it?

Spike
Title: Re: SPIKE'S BURTHA CELL
Post by: Login to see usernames on July 06, 2008, 04:58:07 am
Nice work on the cell, spike.  I see yer bare hand on the tubes.

Transfer of skin oils will introduce anutha variable into the cell and may cause foaming.

The LORD fusor system is methylacrylate as well.

Keep at it, man!

Turtle

Title: Re: SPIKE'S BURTHA CELL
Post by: Login to see usernames on July 06, 2008, 05:49:24 am
Turtlle

I usually wipe them down with alcohol last,
To remove any oils left over.
But I do touch them on the ends.  ???
I'll keep this in mind.

Thanks
Spike
Title: Re: SPIKE'S BURTHA CELL
Post by: Login to see usernames on July 07, 2008, 04:33:52 am
My quick-shot passivation is Citrisurf 2050

http://www.stellarsolutions.net/2050data.htm

I don't have much problem with rust i nthe cells.

Turtle
Title: Re: SPIKE'S BURTHA CELL
Post by: Login to see usernames on July 07, 2008, 14:05:15 pm
Thanks for the info on cleaning the stainless

Spike
Title: Re: SPIKE'S BURTHA CELL
Post by: Login to see usernames on July 09, 2008, 08:29:51 am
 ;D WE ARE WIRED !!!  ;D

I GOT MY TUBES SEALED AND WIRED.

GOT YOU ALL A VIDEO.


SPIKE
Title: Re: SPIKE'S BURTHA CELL
Post by: Login to see usernames on July 09, 2008, 09:18:44 am
again Spike man, looking nice!
Go fire the bertha up! ;)

br
Steve
Title: Re: SPIKE'S BURTHA CELL
Post by: Login to see usernames on July 09, 2008, 10:01:38 am
Steve

I'll fire it up as soon as I can. I can't wait.

Spike
Title: Re: SPIKE'S BURTHA CELL
Post by: Login to see usernames on July 10, 2008, 01:08:50 am
I am anxious to see it go !

tedious work !!  very good

Nog
Title: Re: SPIKE'S BURTHA CELL
Post by: Login to see usernames on July 10, 2008, 01:28:14 am
 ;D Working on it as we speak  ;D

Yes, It has been a lot of work.
 But I've enjoyed it.
And learned more than I thought I would.

Spike
Title: Re: SPIKE'S BURTHA CELL
Post by: Login to see usernames on July 10, 2008, 04:07:07 am
  ;D Current construction  ;D

 :o Meet Burtha !!!  :o

Ideas taking shape

Spike

Hello spike

I cant seem to enlarge the first 3 pics.  Can you help me out?  Great work by the way. I am building one based on your schematic.

thanks for any and all help

Title: Re: SPIKE'S BURTHA CELL
Post by: Login to see usernames on July 10, 2008, 06:49:07 am
 ;D IT'S DONE !!!! ;D

My cell is done.
I wondered if this day would come ???

Here is the last video in this series.


Spike

Title: Re: SPIKE'S BURTHA CELL
Post by: Login to see usernames on July 10, 2008, 19:05:44 pm
Awesome Job Spike!!!!    :o


Very creative way to incorporate the manifold.


I was wondering  where you are going to put that in your Seabring?

Lapperll
Title: Re: SPIKE'S BURTHA CELL
Post by: Login to see usernames on July 11, 2008, 02:12:44 am
Thank Lapperll  ;D

This one is for home testing.
I incorporated some new ideas into this one.
What to see how they pan out.   :P

Spike
Title: Re: SPIKE'S BURTHA CELL( FIRST RUN - 923CC/MIN ON STRAIT TAP WATER !!!!)
Post by: Login to see usernames on July 12, 2008, 07:33:15 am
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

BURTA'S FIRST RUN

923CC/MIN 1 LITER/65 SEC
41.8 VDC
12.4 AMPS
518.32 WATTS, INCLUDING THE PUMP

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ON STRAIGHT GRUNT POWER  ;D ;D ;D ;D

SPIKE
Title: Re: SPIKE'S BURTHA CELL
Post by: Login to see usernames on July 12, 2008, 07:44:05 am
nice check this
Title: Re: SPIKE'S BURTHA CELL
Post by: Login to see usernames on July 12, 2008, 08:18:18 am
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

BURTHA'S SECOND RUN ON LYE(2 TBSP/GAL)

3.158 L/M  1L/19SEC
12 VDC
26.1 AMPS
313.2 WATTS
10.08MIL/MIN/WATT, INCLUDING THE PUMP

 ;D ;D ;D ON GRUNT POWER  ;D ;D ;D

SPIKE
Title: Re: SPIKE'S BURTHA CELL
Post by: Login to see usernames on July 12, 2008, 10:12:36 am
Spike,

Are you serious? WOW.... ;) ;) ;) 8)
Kewl numbers! very very good!

br
Steve
Title: Re: SPIKE'S BURTHA CELL
Post by: Login to see usernames on July 12, 2008, 10:39:22 am
FIRST TRY ON TAP, ;D
I WAS VERY PLEASED!
AND I HAVEN'T EVEN FINISHED MY BOB CIRCUIT.

SPIKE
Title: Re: SPIKE'S BURTHA CELL
Post by: Login to see usernames on July 12, 2008, 10:40:35 am
Spike,

You can start cooking on HHO now...LOL
Well done!

br
Steve
Title: Re: SPIKE'S BURTHA CELL
Post by: Login to see usernames on July 12, 2008, 10:43:42 am
STEVE

WHATS MY NEXT STEP.

SPIKE
Title: Re: SPIKE'S BURTHA CELL
Post by: Login to see usernames on July 12, 2008, 12:38:00 pm
Hi Spike,

First, I think you do not need an extra bubler....but you must decide on that.
Secondly, try to light a torch with your gas output and make a nice vid of that! ;)
Third, try to ionize the gas.....see http://www.ionizationx.com/index.php/topic,407.0.html
Fourth is to add an air ionizer on your engines air intake.

It seems to me that you have enough gas now. The problem is that the energy state of the gas is not high. Resulting in you creating more and more gas.....That is not the solution. We have to change the energy state of the gas, so we do not need so much of it....

It is possible to run a small engine on the amount of gas you have, btw. Even if it is not higly energized.
It will only run if your gas is NOT underpressure.....and that is dangerous......backflashes....hrmmmmmmm
Riddler can advise on that part..

br
Steve
Title: Re: SPIKE'S BURTHA CELL
Post by: Login to see usernames on July 12, 2008, 12:42:18 pm
Spike,

Maybe i missed it somewere here, but can you tell me what kind of pump you use?

br
Steve
Title: Re: SPIKE'S BURTHA CELL
Post by: Login to see usernames on July 12, 2008, 14:51:41 pm
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

BURTHA'S SECOND RUN ON LYE(2 TBSP/GAL)

3.158 L/M  1L/19SEC
12 VDC
26.1 AMPS
313.2 WATTS
10.08MIL/MIN/WATT, INCLUDING THE PUMP

 ;D ;D ;D ON GRUNT POWER  ;D ;D ;D

SPIKE

now this is production
keep up the good work
Najiman  ;D
Title: Re: SPIKE'S BURTHA CELL
Post by: Login to see usernames on July 12, 2008, 15:24:00 pm
Wow that's impressive.
Guess it was worth all the amusement of  the construction  ;)


Congratulation again,  looking for a video soon  :)

Nog
Title: Re: SPIKE'S BURTHA CELL
Post by: Login to see usernames on July 13, 2008, 21:41:05 pm
James

Yes, the first one I pumped into the tubes at first,
but then I found it wasn't necessary to have a pump.
The pump i found, was a 500 GPH live well pump.
And the way it was made, it was easier to mount it on top.

Spike
Title: Re: SPIKE'S BURTHA CELL
Post by: Login to see usernames on July 13, 2008, 23:37:01 pm
James

I don't believe it's pulling a vacuum,
if it is, it's not much.
I need to put a gauge on the top to see.
but I'm not restricting the flow.
In the near future, I will be.
Along with expanding the gas.
I hope.

Spike
Title: Re: SPIKE'S BURTHA CELL
Post by: Login to see usernames on July 15, 2008, 03:43:23 am
 Its Awesome to see what a simple idea can turn into. That is an excellent piece of work. What is the gap between the tubes? I found the smaller the better but it also required the pump to keep it working. I love it when members take an idea and improve it instead of every one just making the same design over and over again. The less details you give means the person replicating has to come up with there own changes to the design. Then it is possible to compare the differences and create the next generation, which you did.  I can’t wait to see more videos. Later Bill
Title: Re: SPIKE'S BURTHA CELL
Post by: Login to see usernames on July 15, 2008, 05:28:48 am
Karebill

Thanks  ;D
I'm running 0.7 - 0.8 mm gap between all 3 tubes

Spike
Title: Re: SPIKE'S BURTHA CELL
Post by: Login to see usernames on July 15, 2008, 08:29:21 am
Glad to see the good #s, spike.  Do you know what the actual volts-per-space is?  That is, are the tube-sets wired in series?  Then it's just a math function to determine voltage per cell, as each tubeset experiences a voltage split betweem both poles.

Thanks, and keep up the testing!

Turtle
Title: Re: SPIKE'S BURTHA CELL
Post by: Login to see usernames on July 15, 2008, 08:35:19 am
Turtle

With additives = 1.7 vdc / cell
w/o additives = 5.9 vdc/cell

Spike
Title: Re: SPIKE'S BURTHA CELL
Post by: Login to see usernames on July 16, 2008, 02:02:00 am
After changing water out 6 times,
I got back to base numbers.
Experimenting with different rotor imputs,
I found my base imputs to be the best.
But I found that I can run without the pump,
And get better production, and efficiencies.  ;D
I'll post a video soon.

1.017L/MIN 1 LITER/59 SEC ( ON STRAIT TAP H2O )
42.5 VDC
8.2 AMPS
348.5 WATTS
2.92MIL/MIN/WATT, NO PUMP

Spike
Title: Re: SPIKE'S BURTHA CELL RUNNING VIDEO
Post by: Login to see usernames on July 16, 2008, 02:49:45 am
 ;D SHE'S ALIVE  ;D

JUST A VIDEO TO SHOW YOU SHE'S RUNNING
STRONG, AND HEALTHY.
HERE'S A VIDEO

SPIKE

Title: Re: SPIKE'S BURTHA CELL AND TORCH RUNNING VIDEO
Post by: Login to see usernames on July 16, 2008, 03:57:14 am
A VIDEO ON LYE, USING THE TORCH

SPIKE

Title: Re: SPIKE'S BURTHA CELL
Post by: Login to see usernames on July 16, 2008, 04:17:51 am
That is awesome Spike!! Thanks for sharing and keep up the great work.
Title: Re: SPIKE'S BURTHA CELL
Post by: Login to see usernames on July 16, 2008, 09:25:05 am
Thanks, Spike for making that video!
Its very impressive!
Now we have a good idea on how big the flame could be with that kind of production numbers. :)

Br
Steve
Title: Re: SPIKE'S BURTHA CELL
Post by: Login to see usernames on July 16, 2008, 10:42:25 am
Steve

these are my latest numbers

3.158 L/M  1L/19SEC (2TBSPN LYE/GAL)
12 VDC
26.1 AMPS
313.2 WATTS
10.08MIL/MIN/WATT, INCLUDING THE PUMP
145.2 % FARADAY

1.017L/MIN 1 LITER/59 SEC (ON STAIT TAP H2O)
42.5 VDC
8.2 AMPS
348.5 WATTS
2.92MIL/MIN/WATT, NO PUMP

the last video was at 3 L/min on lye
the torch and back flash video was 1 L/min on strait tap water
the flame was about the same, I think my torch restricts the flow ???

Spike
Title: Re: SPIKE'S BURTHA CELL
Post by: Login to see usernames on July 16, 2008, 20:17:31 pm
This Thread is now a sticky!

Spike you are the King of production with tube cells! This should be a sticky and not overlooked!

This cell your making, it is the next generation of fuel cells, and many will follow you! I already want to but cant, already spent me bucks on the stan replica, so it'll have to wait...  as i said to you threw im, if i produced what you did i would have already had an engine running!

I do have a few ?'s.. Who is karebill? is karebill stephen meyer? You've done awsome work spike!
Title: Re: SPIKE'S BURTHA CELL
Post by: Login to see usernames on July 16, 2008, 21:05:16 pm
Well done Spike!

Riddler said it all!

br
steve
Title: Re: SPIKE'S BURTHA CELL
Post by: Login to see usernames on July 16, 2008, 23:11:45 pm
Riddler

I don't know Karebill's real name,  He might be Stephen for all I know. But I can tell you his cell was the starting block for mine. His was the first tube cell, That was a dry cell, That I ever saw.  Basic tube knowledge from you and Steve.
Hydrogen mask, H2O Power, And even Topsyketts, Gave me ideas, Along with many others.
So it's basically everyones imput that built it.
And as I get into the next steps, I'm really going to need help!!

Spike
Title: Re: SPIKE'S BURTHA CELL
Post by: Login to see usernames on July 16, 2008, 23:31:40 pm
You mean to tell me this is your design and is not patented?

you had me thinking the design you had was in stephens patent!

im confused, dude this is great!
Title: Re: SPIKE'S BURTHA CELL
Post by: Login to see usernames on July 17, 2008, 00:12:29 am
Riddler

part of it is Stephens design. I looked at a lot of designs, and he was using the three tubes.

Spike
Title: Re: SPIKE'S BURTHA CELL
Post by: Login to see usernames on July 17, 2008, 00:13:25 am
And no. it's not patented.

Spike
Title: Re: SPIKE'S BURTHA CELL
Post by: Login to see usernames on July 17, 2008, 03:27:35 am
Karebill is Bill Martin from around the KC MO area. Iv had been playing with this design for awhile now and like this sight so much that I put it here for all. Spike just ran with it, modified it and is doing an awesome job for us all. I do have a 50cc 2 stroke running on Hydroxy but have a problem regulating the rpms. There will be more released on this setup also when the refrigeration season slows down and I have time to finish it.
Title: Re: SPIKE'S BURTHA CELL
Post by: Login to see usernames on July 17, 2008, 03:40:41 am
Karebill

I look forward to seeing your posts.

Thanks again
Spike
Title: Re: SPIKE'S BURTHA CELL
Post by: Login to see usernames on July 17, 2008, 04:49:57 am
If you want to see more pictures, ;D
click on the following link

Spike

http://s333.photobucket.com/albums/m366/bulldogge1232000/Burtha/?start=all
Title: Re: SPIKE'S BURTHA CELL
Post by: Login to see usernames on July 17, 2008, 04:51:59 am
spike congrats on the  cell     definatly  th sciznit     


 how longer are the tubes your using   
Title: Re: SPIKE'S BURTHA CELL
Post by: Login to see usernames on July 17, 2008, 04:59:19 am
dudleyengineering

1"  x 15 1/2",  3/4" x 16",  1/2" x 20"
304L .095 wall thickness

Spike
Title: Re: SPIKE'S BURTHA CELL
Post by: Login to see usernames on July 17, 2008, 05:21:59 am
Well you guy's are doing great work!!!!!

this is what i like to see, when those that come together to finish this things off...

your cells are impossible, i cant get over what you produce given what you consume, its just unbelievable!!!!!!!! Nice!
Title: Re: SPIKE'S BURTHA CELL
Post by: Login to see usernames on July 17, 2008, 09:06:14 am
Riddler

I don't know Karebill's real name,  He might be Stephen for all I know. But I can tell you his cell was the starting block for mine. His was the first tube cell, That was a dry cell, That I ever saw.  Basic tube knowledge from you and Steve.
Hydrogen mask, H2O Power, And even Topsyketts, Gave me ideas, Along with many others.
So it's basically everyones imput that built it.
And as I get into the next steps, I'm really going to need help!!

Spike

This wfc has 62 tubes total, the way I built it I had to use push-in type connectors and they finally coroded out on me so the wfc just sit in waitting for now.
Title: Re: SPIKE'S BURTHA CELL
Post by: Login to see usernames on July 17, 2008, 19:24:40 pm
h2o power

I think i remember a video on youtube of this cell in your garage.

Spike
Title: Re: SPIKE'S BURTHA CELL
Post by: Login to see usernames on July 20, 2008, 16:25:35 pm
spike

I was wondering if you tried connecting the cells in parallel without electrolyte? (With electrolyte parallel will consume a lot of amps)

If you did connect the burtha cell or the other earlier karebill setup you built in parallel with 2 tubes do you notice any significant gain or loss in production. (plain tap water.)?

Should i go for 3 tubes or 2 tubes, 2 tubes would be cheaper but if you say 3 is the best then 3 it is.

I was also wondering does it matter if its concentric and water flows through between the tubes, like a 2 foot long joe cell with 5 or 6 tubes with neutrals between them, rather than having 9 pairs of same size tubes?

This is because all the inner tubes in the joe cell will be immersed in water. Is exposing the tubes to air like Stanley Meyers injector design the key?

Thanks and very grateful for the advice
waterfalcon
Title: Re: SPIKE'S BURTHA CELL
Post by: Login to see usernames on July 20, 2008, 17:40:24 pm
waterfalcon

I have hooked my karebill 12 up in parallel, And yes, It did pull more amps. But It produced the most in its current hookup.\

Spike
Title: Re: SPIKE'S BURTHA CELL
Post by: Login to see usernames on August 02, 2008, 03:15:10 am
 :'( Blown Cell  :'(

Today, I was trying a new torch out. And getting good results. (10" flame!!!)
Then I heard a Low grunting pop, Turning to see the top of my cell falling
back down on top of  the remains of my cell. And water falling to the floor.

Hard lessons learned

1- If you are going to restrict flow, Get a PSI gauge.
2- Install a high pressure shutoff or pop off

Spike
Title: Re: SPIKE'S BURTHA CELL
Post by: Login to see usernames on August 02, 2008, 03:37:02 am

 Ouch.  Repairable ???
Title: Re: SPIKE'S BURTHA CELL
Post by: Login to see usernames on August 02, 2008, 04:04:05 am
 ;D Very Repairable  ;D

Just time consuming, And a little bit of redesign.  ;)

Spike
Title: Re: SPIKE'S BURTHA CELL
Post by: Login to see usernames on August 03, 2008, 02:00:23 am
nice work sripke ;)
Title: Re: SPIKE'S BURTHA CELL
Post by: Login to see usernames on August 03, 2008, 03:17:53 am
pochintwin

 :'( All I can do now is learn from it   :'(

Spike
Title: Re: SPIKE'S BURTHA CELL
Post by: Login to see usernames on August 03, 2008, 08:47:15 am
Sorry to hear the bad news Spike, I loved that cell :D. If you say it is repairable thank heavens, and you might what to try and get some access to the center electrod so you can try out lots of different wirings on it.

Sure wish you the best of luck on your repairs
br,
h2opower.
Title: Re: SPIKE'S BURTHA CELL
Post by: Login to see usernames on August 03, 2008, 13:18:00 pm
Spike,
  Just an idea, but when you glue your end cap back on, maybe install some roll pins or dowels through the cap into your manifold plate.  This would probably reduce some the stress.

Just a thought.

LapperL
Title: Re: SPIKE'S BURTHA CELL
Post by: Login to see usernames on August 03, 2008, 14:38:55 pm
lapperl

I like the idea of the roll pins.
 I was thinking of screws,
And insetting the ends.
But the pins would be easier,
And I could still band it with my hose clamps   8)
Now , All I need a day stretcher, If anyone has an extra one  ;D

Thanks Again
Spike
Title: Re: SPIKE'S BURTHA CELL
Post by: Login to see usernames on August 03, 2008, 17:10:08 pm
Spike,
  On second thought, the roll pin would be kind of permanent and difficult to remove due to the fact that they are designed to be pushed through.  I think a pull dowel would be a better solution.  This way you can still disassemble it for servicing.

Lapperl
Title: Re: SPIKE'S BURTHA CELL
Post by: Login to see usernames on August 08, 2008, 07:30:05 am
Possibly some sort of tie-rod clamping assy.   Since the failure was pressure related and not a flashback, try and think how to strengthen the non-threaded joints.    Roll pins might weaken the adjacent material and would definitely leak if they went thru to the cavity.

External clamping pressure might be ugly, but tenable

Turtle, using tie rods http://s237.photobucket.com/albums/ff213/keithturtle/?action=view&current=visioncell001.jpg
Title: Re: SPIKE'S BURTHA CELL
Post by: Login to see usernames on August 08, 2008, 11:06:23 am
Turtle

It's definitely a thought. 
I just wish I knew how the pressure was before it blew.
It might have been a good thing.

Spike
Title: Re: SPIKE'S BURTHA CELL ( LOW AMP TEST)
Post by: Login to see usernames on August 11, 2008, 07:41:34 am
 ;D GOT MY CELL RUNNING  ;D

Today I tried a low amp test using Lye and KOH

Here are my results

LOW AMP TEST
400cc/MIN 1 LITER/150 SEC (1TBSPN LYE/ 1TBSPN KOH)
9.5 VDC
3.4 AMPS
32.3 WATTS
12.38 MIL/ MIN/ WATT
178.33% FARADAY

It.s nice to be testing again  ;D

Spike
Title: Re: SPIKE'S BURTHA CELL
Post by: Login to see usernames on August 11, 2008, 10:10:56 am
Again a big WOW!
Very good Spike!
You are having the best results i ever have seen.
I ll add them to my testresult excelsheet.

Question: What about using plain tapwater without additives on the same level of power. Can you try that one for me?

br
Steve