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« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2010, 05:17:28 am »
Guys i had a kind of idea of what were inside stan black box.

1° Magnetic Force is not consumed from a permanent magnet in a generator.

2° A generator comprise a way to move a magnetic field in relation to an inductor to generate electricity. To move this field we use to add mechanic energy.

3° Electromagnets can create a magnetic force or magnetic flux.

4° with an electromagnet you can raise a car using a machine (the car sticks to it)

5° the energy needed to stick the car to the coil is far less than that to raise it.

A transformer works by applying energy in the primary to align the magnetic domains in the core inducing thus by lenz force a current in the  secondary.

The idea come from how speakers work.

I had a problem with a twitter yesterday in my studio monitor, it just blowed out. I opened it to try repairing it and i found out that it need the same wire i bough long ago to construct the vic's. Coincidence? Today i was in a mechanical physics lesson and in a power lesson the teacher mentioned in some moment by case the word spring. Bang...

I thought...

In a resonant circuit we have at resonance maximum voltage and current (force) and current lags voltage so the (dissipated) power is lower than the reactive power circulating in the circuit. (voltage and current are out of phase)

I already build on the past a resonant tank that circulated 10000watts using about 100 to do so..

bla bla bla where you want to arrive sebos???

What i want to create is a kind of vibrational double resonant transformer that would use the force of the magnetic field created in a coil witch belong to a tank circuit to vibrate a magnet witch is held by springs that also have a certain resonance frequency witch move the magnet in relation to the coil generating energy.

I thought of a different way to do it.

I would need a wood box constructed to vibrate at a certain frequency (resonant cavity for real) and to position a sub woofer speaker running the same frequency with a parallel capacitor and the water cell in series with the thing...

Basically the inductor preferably or the magnet should be fix to allow the other to vibrate. This vibration would induce a current in the same or other coil.

I have reasons to believe that the energy output will be far greater than the input and probably dependent on voltage developed thus inductance of the coils ... and the frequency.... . Probably there might exist the need to use bifilar coil to get this energy out useable and clean.

The spring light came from the patent from saint german about worm hole generator. ( however he don't talk of physical springs only universal spring constant and a strange fig of coils integrals and bla bla bla...

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« Reply #10 on: July 09, 2010, 06:50:31 am »
I'm still thinking about this vibration transformer and i just found a good way for doing it..

A plexiglass tube (maybe 3 cm diameter 10 cm long) with a coil outside, in the inside a cylindrical or ball permanent magnet (some oil could be added to reduce friction and also this tube could be under vacuum to reduce air drag too) and at the top and bottom fixed springs or permanent magnets with reverse polarity to the face of the in magnet...

The coil should have a very big inductance in my opinion as to have a frequency not too high to allow big vibration. However this inductor should have a big Q factor. Than a capacitor hand rolled should be added in parallel. All this could be driven with a vic coil...

The load could be implemented in parallel to the circuit or in series However in my imagination in parallel would be better and using an igbt with a control circuit witch would allow to conduct fpr some ms when the tank is full to not totally discharge the tank during operation...

There is a need to design it well to know the weight for calculating the spring constants of the magnets to find the frequency witch they will vibrate.
This way is possible to roll the capacitor for the right R frequency.

Amps should be kept small i think and voltage big...

The spring constant will depend on the weight and is similar to the resonant frequency calculation of a tank circuit = 1/( 2PIsqrt(mass/K))

The tank should operate at 2kv maybe 10 or 20 amps... (recirculating)

The input power should be around 2kv 100ma or less

Maybe a spark gap will be needed too for limiting the voltage

(it seems to me in my mind like donald L smith devices...) don't know why
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« Reply #11 on: July 09, 2010, 06:55:11 am »
Aways good to remember, if you try to do this to be extremely careful. if you touch the inductor terminations during operation you could really burn 2kv 20 amps are = to 40kwatts discharge into you. You will die if touch. so please too much careful!!!!!!

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« Reply #12 on: July 10, 2010, 20:26:41 pm »
I've researching about the mechanical resonance involved in this project i'm proposing and I found to be amazingly complicated to achieve and maintain the mechanical oscillation. 1° because will depend on the weight of the internal magnet and the forces of the other two related magnets and also will depend on the power applied. So a mean for controlling the voltage applied will be needed.

I though this,
Construct the tube with the magnets than discover its mechanical resonant frequency, than construct a well designed coil that coincides in electrical resonance with the resonant capacitor but also its magnetic field strength for the desired power operation, to allow the magnets to resonate...

I don't know if you understand my point...

something like this:

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« Reply #13 on: July 12, 2010, 11:58:34 am »
Quote from Puharich patent

he Anatomy of the Barrier  Effect     Region A: Shows active and  efficient  hydrolysis
Region B: The barrier region  effect  can be initiated with taps of the finger, or it can spontaneously occur  as a function of time.
Phase a: The current rose from  1  mA to 30 mA. The voltage fell from 22 volts to 2.5 V.
Phase b: If component II is  tapped  mechanically during Phase a supra --- it can be reversed as follows:  The  current dropped from 30 Ma to 10 Ma. The voltage shot up from 5 volts  to  over 250 volts (off scale).
Throughout Phase a and Phase b,  all  hydrolysis has ceased. It was observed under the microscope that the  inner  surface of the outer electrode was thickly covered with hydrogen gas  bubbles.  It was reasoned that the hydrogen gas bubbles had become trapped in the  electrostricted layer, because the water molecule tetrahedrons had  flipped  so that the S+ hydrogen apices had entered the Helmholtz layer and were  absorbed to the electronegative charge of the electrode. This left the  S- lone pair apices facing the electrostricted layer. This process  bound  the newly forming H.sup.+ ions which blocked the reaction
H+  + H+   + 2e ==> H2 (gas)
STAGE F
Region C: It was found that the  barrier  effect could be unblocked by some relatively simple procedures:
(a) Reversing the output  electrodes  from Component I to Component II, and/or:
(b) Mechanically tapping the  Component  III cell at a frequency T/2 = 1.5 seconds per tap.
These effects are shown in FIG.  12  and induce the drop in barrier potential from
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Upon unblocking of the barrier  effect,  electrolysis of water resumed with renewed bubble formation of hydrogen  gas.
The barrier potential problem  has  been solved for practical application by lowering the high dielectric  constant  of pure water, by adding salts (NaCl, KOH, etc.) to the pure water  thereby  increasing its conductivity characteristics. For optimum efficiency the  salt concentration need not exceed that of sea water (0.9% salinity) in  Section 3, "Thermodynamics of the Invention", it is to be understood  that  all water solutions described are not "pure" water as in Section B, but  refer only to salinized water.
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« Reply #14 on: July 13, 2010, 01:03:24 am »
Hi dankie

thanks for the contribution is of very good value =) thanks really!

This absorption he talks about i believe is the same the palladium have with hydrogen. Switch off covalent bound by catalytic modification in the molecular shape... But only the right material can absorb the right amount. Palladium is 5 times better than barium and manganese oxide read somewhere.

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