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Re: Stan used AMPS, big time!
« Reply #48 on: March 22, 2009, 17:29:40 pm »
ok, if it is repulsion, then you are not using that waveform i just posted, those are equal and opposite voltages, which add together, increasing stress pulling on the water molecule.

if you want a pure repulsion waveform then both plates would have to get the same positive pulses, or same negative pulses.

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Re: Stan used AMPS, big time!
« Reply #49 on: March 22, 2009, 17:39:07 pm »
ok, if it is repulsion, then you are not using that waveform i just posted, those are equal and opposite voltages, which add together, increasing stress pulling on the water molecule.

if you want a pure repulsion waveform then both plates would have to get the same positive pulses, or same negative pulses.

Its the same opposite that David Serada interviewed the guy who had the thing that fell slower than normal gravity , that kind of opposite .

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Re: Stan used AMPS, big time!
« Reply #50 on: March 22, 2009, 17:46:06 pm »
E fields vectors are canceled out in the middle, where at the same time the stress is strongest.
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Re: Stan used AMPS, big time!
« Reply #51 on: March 22, 2009, 17:46:36 pm »
Its exactly like our genius unkown god friend 2curious4WFC says it is , this is a pm from him , it dates a few months . Most people remember this , I understand your confusion .



2curious is an RF engineer @ waterfuelcell.org .


Here is a pm from 2curious , most of you probably read this but I want you guys to read it again ?

Theres a double resonance here ... Just Look @ 2curious's sig



don't get me wrong, but can you please cut down on the PM a little bit as I have no time left for other things.
Thanks.

TWO, resonances, yes. An electrical one, used to achieve high voltage with little effort.

And an acoustical one (or mechanical if you will), eg. oscillation of particles.(the nucleus and electrons of the atoms)

Yes, it does makes things more complex, that's why many seem to have trouble. This SM
WFC is not a joke, it is quite cutting edge. Too much for most.



 my question to him : I'm not really sure what Stan means anymore by *negative voltages* , could this possibly be 2 opposite currents colliding inside the cell , or does this just mean more potential difference like a house +120 and -120 = 240 volt difference Huh Maybe this circuit have bipolar currents of same time phase and equal intensity , Plz have a look at this quote ....


Right, you got it. Two equal AND opposite voltages (or minor currents if you will) with respect to
a virtual ground, as per SM quote.

Yes, they arrive at the same time in the cell. So particles (or molecules if you will are been stressed
equally from each electrode).





So your example is not quite right !!! Correct it would be: +120V + -120V = 0V

So, look at figure 10-5. See it now ? See how he shows a mirror image of the positive waveform vs. the negative waveform and in the center line exactly zero ?

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Re: Stan used AMPS, big time!
« Reply #52 on: March 22, 2009, 18:12:02 pm »
yes, like i said the zero volts is exactly down the center of that diagram of the parallel plates, this means you have positive voltage on one side that pulls on the negative oxygen, and one side that is negative that pulls on the positive hydrogen.

if you had +20 and 0 volts on the plates then there would be an unequal stress on the water molecule, because you have all positive voltage between the plates, only the negative oxygen would be pulled on, and the positive hydrogen would not be pulled on, but instead repelled from everywhere inside the plates.

i don't think you understand yourself what you are trying to say.

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Re: Stan used AMPS, big time!
« Reply #53 on: March 22, 2009, 18:18:22 pm »
yes, like i said the zero volts is exactly down the center of that diagram of the parallel plates, this means you have positive voltage on one side that pulls on the negative oxygen, and one side that is negative that pulls on the positive hydrogen.

if you had +20 and 0 volts on the plates then there would be an unequal stress on the water molecule, because you have all positive voltage between the plates, only the negative oxygen would be pulled on, and the positive hydrogen would not be pulled on, but instead repelled from everywhere inside the plates.

i don't think you understand yourself what you are trying to say.

Right, you got it. Two equal AND opposite voltages (or minor currents if you will) with respect to
a virtual ground, as per SM quote



It is opposing in the sense of 2 opposing current = no current . And that creates a State region in state space .

If you continue arguing with me those basic facts I will begin to think you are from the MIB lol . I know it doesnt make sense but its like that .

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Re: Stan used AMPS, big time!
« Reply #54 on: March 22, 2009, 18:23:53 pm »
protons and electrons are items of opposite characteristics but they are drawn to that opposition. they are drawn in such a manner they fall towards each other.  like charges repel each other in a forcing manner.

 the charges of the atoms reaction to these fields are of exact OPPOSITE they want to fall in opposite directions cause in that supperimpossing state of space there gravitational forces  oppose.. the dynamic pulse is the shizznet. because your not relying on just the positve pulse which only pulls on the electron without the neg pushing force helping..   the negative pulse helps push the electrons the way they are being pulled while pulling on the protons(nucleus).  start to think on what defines are up and down in our reality for gravity and how it can be altered. potential placement is everything

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Re: Stan used AMPS, big time!
« Reply #55 on: March 22, 2009, 18:34:08 pm »
protons and electrons are items of opposite characteristics but they are drawn to that opposition. they are drawn in such a manner they fall towards each other.  like charges repel each other in a forcing manner.

 the charges of the atoms reaction to these fields are of exact OPPOSITE they want to fall in opposite directions cause in that supperimpossing state of space there gravitational forces  oppose.. the dynamic pulse is the shizznet. because your not relying on just the positve pulse which only pulls on the electron without the neg pushing force helping..   the negative pulse helps push the electrons the way they are being pulled while pulling on the protons(nucleus).  start to think on what defines are up and down in our reality for gravity and how it can be altered. potential placement is everything

Hmm I'm lost .

If Donald is right can somebody plz explain to me what Hdemartin means .

There is either 0 volts across the cell or there is double voltage , what opposite is the good one .