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Title: Ronnie Walker (aka gpssonar) Replication
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 27, 2016, 01:05:46 am
Anyone saw in person the 6 cavity cell working as he claimed?

If fun how many people claim things and no one saw any picture, video or proof of this working...
Title: Re: Ronnie Walker (aka gpssonar) Replication
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 27, 2016, 06:12:42 am
we will never see it...
Title: Re: Ronnie Walker (aka gpssonar) Replication
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 27, 2016, 13:51:32 pm
Maybe because it is not true.

There is no cell working like Ed. Mitchell.

I dont really believe that they got something working, until they show a video or picture with measurements.

People that had done something have no problem to show it and will be very proud of showing their work.

THEWATERENERGY1 is the actually one that showed to got it working in his own way.
Title: Re: Ronnie Walker (aka gpssonar) Replication
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 27, 2016, 15:06:48 pm
dont put yr hope on that waterenergy guy.....
He lives in my country, and i had some contact.
For me , he is person doing a lot in this field, but doesnt have anything new.
Title: Re: Ronnie Walker (aka gpssonar) Replication
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 27, 2016, 21:29:57 pm
I did not see either Ronies cell working but i believe him 100%.I have many reasons to believe him....but...have you guys saw the choopers surveing his house?
Title: Re: Ronnie Walker (aka gpssonar) Replication
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 27, 2016, 21:37:43 pm
This was all bullshit until he prove it.
It is like TGS (Ed. Mitchell) Cells. They claim a lot and show nothing, then they got frustrated about money and time they spent...
Did anyone saw TGS producing decent gas on it?
And about UncleFester (Tad Johnson) ?

NOTHING.

Steve, do you know if THEWATERENERGY1 work is based on Stans resonant cavity cell?

Title: Re: Ronnie Walker (aka gpssonar) Replication
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 27, 2016, 22:16:49 pm
Xblade...think about it another way.if Ronnie had nothing working why he would build the whoule gms sistems , laser distribuitor vic cards,even bouth a buggy just like stans that costs thousands of dolars and many  many work hours to trace down all the boards and figure out how they work,you think he did all that just for a hoax?besides he was doing this from his own pocket not asking for money or anything else....
Title: Re: Ronnie Walker (aka gpssonar) Replication
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 28, 2016, 02:33:30 am
This was all bullshit until he prove it.
It is like TGS (Ed. Mitchell) Cells. They claim a lot and show nothing, then they got frustrated about money and time they spent...
Did anyone saw TGS producing decent gas on it?
And about UncleFester (Tad Johnson) ?

NOTHING.

Steve, do you know if THEWATERENERGY1 work is based on Stans resonant cavity cell?

He didnt tell.  But he is using all the meyer terms and words.
Sounded like an un educate person who learned himself. And used all the magic words.
But if you seen some of his vids, then you see nothing well measured and so on.
Title: Re: Ronnie Walker (aka gpssonar) Replication
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 28, 2016, 03:07:36 am
Not to put down Ronnie I dont know him or seen his videos yet but it seems the way most of em that dont show any production that make the claim to have figured it all out sooner or later quit posting as a regular poster and come in under a generic name to try and use the groups as a means to try and move forward while leaving the known name behind to suggest they've got it finished and just takin care of business.
To get that far one would have released a product to help recoop past expenditures but that product would have to at least be a helpful product o its customers.Mr.Boyce is the only example I know of that has been to the groups and actually helped people and also released a usefull product (s) in doing so.Has Ronnie released anything to help?
Has Ed released anything to help?
I think Max may have released some boards and stuff but it doesnt help if no body can afford it.
Most of the time the "claimers" that are in the groups just see the groups as a sales base and leave when they realize it just dont work that way with an overpriced product to start and on top of that no real proof of anything useable.
Its mostly forbidden in groups to solicit there own products in groups that are learning to build things.
Claimers rub me raw every time knowing the road theve been on (same as everyone) and knowing the road they're headed.(using the groups as a nothing but a sales base)
If youre in a group that shares things and decide to go hide the first site of "break through" go *  yourself and Ill be the last if not the first to rub you raw till i smell blood :)
Title: Re: Ronnie Walker (aka gpssonar) Replication
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 28, 2016, 08:51:19 am
Xblade...think about it another way.if Ronnie had nothing working why he would build the whoule gms sistems , laser distribuitor vic cards,even bouth a buggy just like stans that costs thousands of dolars and many  many work hours to trace down all the boards and figure out how they work,you think he did all that just for a hoax?besides he was doing this from his own pocket not asking for money or anything else....

Maybe as we he also can´t live without it so he sure did his best... i would have done the same if i just could more... Not trying to judge anyone i just respect everyones position as i expect also some respect on me.

I maybe would have invite you all to come here and see the thing exploding gas if it workd.. =)
 life made me learn that, you deserve it as much or more than me!
Title: Re: Ronnie Walker (aka gpssonar) Replication
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 28, 2016, 13:51:36 pm
Maybe its time to bring our efforts together and start all over again.

I  got good skills on PCB making and i can manufacture it in China as i had done many times.
I have access to a Lathe and mill to in my job.

Lets get together.
Title: Re: Ronnie Walker (aka gpssonar) Replication
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 28, 2016, 21:46:52 pm
Xblade.Bob boice is a hoax,he might helped people but the end result is brute force electrolisis which we don't want.Ronnie helped a lot, posting  very usefull stuff that would take us mounts to figure it out.He worked 7 years on this ,experimenting on he's own, winding hundreds of coils burning lots of parts and magnet wire....do you want to put it on the table free for all just now so you can believe it.Right now he is helping he's team to have their cells working and when they all finish he would post the proof together with his team mates so there is will be no doubt.Then he would publish all free for all...
Title: Re: Ronnie Walker (aka gpssonar) Replication
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 29, 2016, 00:55:35 am
Maybe he is helping his team first. If it is true, by the way i dont believe he will publish anything to public, with escuses like he is afraid of some threats.
Title: Re: Ronnie Walker (aka gpssonar) Replication
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 29, 2016, 09:04:00 am
Xblade.Bob boice is a hoax,he might helped people but the end result is brute force electrolisis which we don't want.Ronnie helped a lot, posting  very usefull stuff that would take us mounts to figure it out.He worked 7 years on this ,experimenting on he's own, winding hundreds of coils burning lots of parts and magnet wire....do you want to put it on the table free for all just now so you can believe it.Right now he is helping he's team to have their cells working and when they all finish he would post the proof together with his team mates so there is will be no doubt.Then he would publish all free for all...

Bob isnt a hoax , helped me for a whole year starting at the end of his rev.B board...the beginning of rev.C.... I say that because I think that was at a time Mr.Boyce had decided to share again...he had to have been working on that a while.
I'd bet not to many people have seen this waveform with Bob's circuit, I have....on my own scope.The reason Ive drawn it is because my 2nd wife threw most everything I had away...even my laptop with the picture on it...
Whats so special about that waveform you may wander.... not just the fact it has similarities with Puharch ,you cant see it with the naked eye viewing your scope when the board is in tune.I took a dozen or so pictures with the board running,in tune and hooked up my scope probe and only 1 turned up with the rippled sqare wave. What you see in the second pic is what the naked eye seen on the scope screen to the best I can remember...I know that's not a perfect drawing but its close.The frequencies from left to right on the second pic were
10.7     21.4    42.8  They add together as it goes higher and for what ever reason showed up as a square wave with 3 specific ripples on top with that 1 picture.
There is in that fact there is more to Bobs circuit than meets the eye.
Title: Re: Ronnie Walker (aka gpssonar) Replication
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 29, 2016, 11:18:45 am
Maybe its time to bring our efforts together and start all over again.

I  got good skills on PCB making and i can manufacture it in China as i had done many times.
I have access to a Lathe and mill to in my job.

Lets get together.

Wonderful... i realy believe into us getting together could be the most fruitfull situation

when most stop thinking that has the king in the belly we will be able to share expenses and progress alot...

i can provide a nice pll circuit that would work for anyone... but i dont realy have the money or time right now to make new pcb for me.... i believe in sharing the responsability..

i also have the fracture cell circuit that is already somewhere

if we had a simple freq generator like the one i have would be easy to say well change R1 or L2 or whatever and we would be working in the same thing...

i never wanted from the start to copy anything from meyer from pictures specialy although i also tried by the pressure of the all people saying i was doing something too diferent haha

this was the only way i had to learn it and understand it as much as stan about it... i hope...

and today we can take this few i
Title: Re: Ronnie Walker (aka gpssonar) Replication
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 29, 2016, 11:22:11 am
i wrote a nice comment but it got lost sorry
Title: Re: Ronnie Walker (aka gpssonar) Replication
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 29, 2016, 13:59:41 pm
With any Arduino i was able to generate 50% duty square wave with high precicion (1hz steps) and from 60HZ to 140khz, based on tone() function.

I can explain to the ones who have some skills on Arduino programming.

Instead a pot i use rotay encoder and a 16x2 i2c LCD.

If anyone interested i can explain it.
Title: Re: Ronnie Walker (aka gpssonar) Replication
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 29, 2016, 14:06:01 pm
i´m willing to learn =D

If you could maybe collect some info into a file tutorial like telling all steps would be very nice ! this way all could get this as standard
Title: Re: Ronnie Walker (aka gpssonar) Replication
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 29, 2016, 14:08:33 pm
Thats ok.

I will clean the code and optimize it, then i will ask to any admin to open a new section for me under the "Projects by Members".

See you guys.
Title: Re: Ronnie Walker (aka gpssonar) Replication
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 29, 2016, 14:20:24 pm
Good one! nice to see you are willing to grow up together with us! I will try to finish my PLL board to share too.. than anyone can have it too just in case...

i´m willing to learn arduino a lot also for other projects and now i´m able to get one....

i have a friend in florida who is helping me too learning about this digital world and maybe he can if he want help this process too.. i will talk to him what is his disposition  too..

Obrigado

Partnering up is the way to get bigger and bigger...
Title: Re: Ronnie Walker (aka gpssonar) Replication
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 29, 2016, 15:39:47 pm
Gpssonar,

I too welcome your sharing of the arduino info in the projects section.  Thank you very, very much.

kb
Title: Re: Ronnie Walker (aka gpssonar) Replication
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 29, 2016, 15:44:40 pm
Gpssonar,

I'd like to build your pll circuit.  please share pm or otherwise.

thanks much,

kickbackemf
Title: Re: Ronnie Walker (aka gpssonar) Replication
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 29, 2016, 17:39:33 pm
Sure i will first rebuild it to confirm its all ok so it will take a litle time so i make the boards make the holes and build it again..

i have a photografic system to develop the boards but than all the holes are manual... 
Title: Re: Ronnie Walker (aka gpssonar) Replication
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 29, 2016, 21:20:36 pm
I  got it too Sebosfato:

At home for prototyping i have photonegative adhesive, Laser printer and a UV lamp from nail hoven.

But i can produce it professional from china, i will post some pictures.

Best regards to all of you.
Title: Re: Ronnie Walker (aka gpssonar) Replication
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 30, 2016, 02:05:32 am
Everyone would need the same spacing a length of tubes to get the same results but being different could move forward faster but why doesnt anybody talk about their cell parameters? It just makes no sence to start winding coils without knowing your cell parameters and things....Bob was great at teaching that part to bring it into a common sense base even if youre not using plates or electrolyte ....no one talks about an idle current or anything...I think if you are going to give it a honest go ,establish a common sense base and standard ,understand what you are trying to do other than just duplicating a circuit with your cell to begin with....its why i say you should start with treating it like an electrolysis cell.
Title: Re: Ronnie Walker (aka gpssonar) Replication
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 30, 2016, 11:10:21 am
I really dont believe that cell behaves like a real capacitor. It takes on charge but not the way we all think.

Resonance can be at the coils with self capacitance, it magnifies a lot the voltage the same time it restricts the amps.

What everyone think about "flux cancellation" behavior?
I have a different view of some people who said that flux cancellation restricts amps, it seems to be clear that it is opposit behavior.
Title: Re: Ronnie Walker (aka gpssonar) Replication
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 30, 2016, 11:16:43 am
Now my problem is lack of the right tools:

My Hitachi v212 scope is not the best, but the only one i can afford, differential probes cost a lot , so i will try to build a differential input with op-amps and buy a simple hv probe thaat is cheaper.
Title: Re: Ronnie Walker (aka gpssonar) Replication
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 30, 2016, 21:00:22 pm
i think the water behaves as a dielectric at a certain frequency,,, meaning it allows the coil to overcharge the molecules with electrostatic potential...

your osciloscope is analog... may not be bad.. but a digital one is very good option as it is a multimeter inside with multiple functions.. .

diferential probe without proper shield is unreliable.. i wouldnt lose time on it.. try to get the real one is simpler....

i´m using the same tubes as meyer one is a 0,5 inch x 4 inch rod having the holes and being longer than the tube which is 2,75 inch long

its all over... the tubes i got from onlinemetals.com the rods i got and machined here inbrazil

all 304 material seamless tubes ks

in the prototype i´m currently using thereis two sets isolated from eachother and having water in each separated from each other of course... and the electrodes were polished and left over night on citric acid 10% concentration

i believe the cell is a conductor of dielectric field.. .simple as that.. .



Title: Re: Ronnie Walker (aka gpssonar) Replication
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 30, 2016, 21:32:58 pm
Hello friends.

Today i purchased one 3D printer kit (prusa i3 model B) on ebay from germany.
I have a co-worker that is a good CAD designer and i will ask for help on solid works, to print some coil formers, and cavities.
When it is running i can print yours and ship it near at cost price.

I cant wait to get it ;-)
Title: Re: Ronnie Walker (aka gpssonar) Replication
Post by: Login to see usernames on May 01, 2016, 14:25:29 pm
Hello friends.

Today i purchased one 3D printer kit (prusa i3 model B) on ebay from germany.
I have a co-worker that is a good CAD designer and i will ask for help on solid works, to print some coil formers, and cavities.
When it is running i can print yours and ship it near at cost price.

I cant wait to get it ;-)

X blade! My best friend!  :D ;D ;) :D ;D
Title: Re: Ronnie Walker (aka gpssonar) Replication
Post by: Login to see usernames on May 01, 2016, 14:32:26 pm
well, you know what i have...
See my project page.
a 4 cell with the right sizes electrodes with a delrin base.
A frequency generator with mark and space options.
A scope that works fine.
Now the question on how the VIC should look like, as i tried to Don Gable version......

Maybe the goal is to resonate between the coil capacitance and reactance and then the cell as a resister over the LC?
Title: Re: Ronnie Walker (aka gpssonar) Replication
Post by: Login to see usernames on May 02, 2016, 01:47:53 am
If you look into "sperm wave" from ronnie walker you can see 2 things:

- Step charging into choke when pulsing
- Coil damping (oscillating) on gate at the same frequency that it was pulsed before, until almost no charge.

Maybe it can be charging the coil to an higher level and then discharged to exiter array.


Title: Re: Ronnie Walker (aka gpssonar) Replication
Post by: Login to see usernames on May 02, 2016, 01:52:38 am
I have here a coil that i have wrapped (single) on a tv flyback core that measures 1850mH, if i pulse it with a diode, on the off time i got an oscillation with 8330hZ.
Title: Re: Ronnie Walker (aka gpssonar) Replication
Post by: Login to see usernames on May 02, 2016, 09:46:19 am
If you look into "sperm wave" from ronnie walker you can see 2 things:

- Step charging into choke when pulsing
- Coil damping (oscillating) on gate at the same frequency that it was pulsed before, until almost no charge.

Maybe it can be charging the coil to an higher level and then discharged to exiter array.

which picture of Ron are you refering to?
Title: Re: Ronnie Walker (aka gpssonar) Replication
Post by: Login to see usernames on May 02, 2016, 22:19:53 pm
This one:

(http://open-source-energy.org/?action=dlattach;topic=876.0;attach=9033;image)

look into topic here, page 89:
http://open-source-energy.org/?topic=876.2200 (http://open-source-energy.org/?topic=876.2200)
Title: Re: Ronnie Walker (aka gpssonar) Replication
Post by: Login to see usernames on May 03, 2016, 00:27:29 am
i feel like i´m really too much educated when people come show this waveforms talks nothing about it and even claim to have working cells and i stay quiet... i use to call names for very much less than this...

but time makes us more calm...

i can do same waveform as this in 300 different ways...

this mean that if someone show you somthing and dont explain or show schmatic or dont want you to see or understand you should not waste time on it...


Title: Re: Ronnie Walker (aka gpssonar) Replication
Post by: Login to see usernames on May 03, 2016, 12:41:18 pm
amen
Title: Re: Ronnie Walker (aka gpssonar) Replication
Post by: Login to see usernames on May 03, 2016, 20:05:41 pm
What i see here is an forced oscillation during the pulse time, rising in amplitude in KV range and then the "ringing" LC at same carrier frequency during gate (pulses off).

But it dont mean a working and producing cell
Title: Re: Ronnie Walker (aka gpssonar) Replication
Post by: Login to see usernames on May 03, 2016, 20:50:27 pm
This one:

(http://open-source-energy.org/?action=dlattach;topic=876.0;attach=9033;image)

look into topic here, page 89:
http://open-source-energy.org/?topic=876.2200 (http://open-source-energy.org/?topic=876.2200)

Im waiting on an account activation email to join to see...
That groups policies were if you share and dont explain do not  post.
Title: Re: Ronnie Walker (aka gpssonar) Replication
Post by: Login to see usernames on May 03, 2016, 20:51:04 pm
=D i didnt meant to attack nor you nor anyone .... is just a point of view of the posture i had and have had having hahah

i think most of us working with huge coils could find the resonance point and when gating it seem just like that.....

i have something new

i have discovered why meyer used more than one vic or had more than 1 there to be used..

the question is not about providing enough current voltage to the cell

he certainly uses in parallel for increasing the force of the voltage fields... like paralleling a magnet.... since amps are restricted they dont add any amp it add only voltage fields at equipotential. but its analogous of having a thicker wire biggr coil...

the greater is the crossection area of the copper the greater is the free electrons available....

so for a same voltage induced a thicker wire would have more oposition to the primary field to maintain the atoms ``ionized " like stan mention than a thin wire... as such it is a bigger charge density formed at the extremities...

remembering magnetic potential is the sum of all magnetic fields..

voltage potential is the sum of all electric fields.. . voltage potential is measure by the force needed to bring this charges together...

Meyer talk about newtons law applied to electric circuit

so voltage is a force within the circuit and amps is what moves like the mass in the commom mechanics... the resistance or power dissipated is the part that does not become kinetic energy or the part that is dissipated as heat.... in the electrical case the kinnetic energy of the charges is the inductive energy amps times inductance... so the capacitance is analogous of a spring where it works by developing an increasing voltage for each electron added..


Last night i made a drawing where the chokes have a commom core and are pulsed... not bifilar... each choke has a parallel capacitor like stan show in the techbrief vic impedance image.

now the chokes connect on both side of the cell one side with the dot and the other not..

than a diode and an external coil (amp inibhiter coil) closes the circuit...

from what i see if the amp inibither coil is there it acts to create the amp restriction and as it reverses its voltage it will sum with the capacitors voltage and create a double pulse...

i was thinking about this cause and effect differences... when a coil is the secondary it will have a current in both directions as the magnetic field rise and fall but when the coil is a primary the current is always in one direction ... when a coil is the secondary it will have a current in both directions as the magnetic field rise and fall but when the coil is a primary the current is always in one direction ... when a coil is the secondary it will have a current in both directions as the magnetic field rise and fall but when the coil is a primary the current is always in one direction ... when a coil is the secondary it will have a current in both directions as the magnetic field rise and fall but when the coil is a primary the current is always in one direction ... when a coil is the secondary it will have a current in both directions as the magnetic field rise and fall but when the coil is a primary the current is always in one direction ... when a coil is the secondary it will have a current in both directions as the magnetic field rise and fall but when the coil is a primary the current is always in one direction ... when a coil is the secondary it will have a current in both directions as the magnetic field rise and fall but when the coil is a primary the current is always in one direction ... when a coil is the secondary it will have a current in both directions as the magnetic field rise and fall but when the coil is a primary the current is always in one direction ... when a coil is the secondary it will have a current in both directions as the magnetic field rise and fall but when the coil is a primary the current is always in one direction ... when a coil is the secondary it will have a current in both directions as the magnetic field rise and fall but when the coil is a primary the current is always in one direction ... when a coil is the secondary it will have a current in both directions as the magnetic field rise and fall but when the coil is a primary the current is always in one direction ... when a coil is the secondary it will have a current in both directions as the magnetic field rise and fall but when the coil is a primary the current is always in one direction ... when a coil is the secondary it will have a current in both directions as the magnetic field rise and fall but when the coil is a primary the current is always in one direction ... when a coil is the secondary it will have a current in both directions as the magnetic field rise and fall but when the coil is a primary the current is always in one direction ... when a coil is the secondary it will have a current in both directions as the magnetic field rise and fall but when the coil is a primary the current is always in one direction ...

Title: Re: Ronnie Walker (aka gpssonar) Replication
Post by: Login to see usernames on May 04, 2016, 09:59:34 am
probably was not clear that i mean that using the chokes as primary is different than using it as secondary..


the amp inhibitor coil was on external core... in many drawings and a coil on a external core receiving pulsed dc flows currnt in only one direction althohugh there is a voltge flip to keep the currnt flowing...

meyer say he have a charging choke on both sides of the cell

Title: Re: Ronnie Walker (aka gpssonar) Replication
Post by: Login to see usernames on May 04, 2016, 10:28:56 am
the increadible thing is that analizing it the other way round its totaly diferent... bcause the resonance is on the size of the chokes not the amp inibitor as i´m going to refer to here and after related to this configuration where the chokes are pulsed and and the circuit is closed by diode and amp inhbiter coil...

Title: Re: Ronnie Walker (aka gpssonar) Replication
Post by: Login to see usernames on May 04, 2016, 14:17:33 pm
probably was not clear that i mean that using the chokes as primary is different than using it as secondary..


the amp inhibitor coil was on external core... in many drawings and a coil on a external core receiving pulsed dc flows currnt in only one direction althohugh there is a voltge flip to keep the currnt flowing...

meyer say he have a charging choke on both sides of the cell

A charging choke in sense of a secondairy coil?
So, 2 cores. Both with a primary for charging up the secondairys (chokes)?

Title: Re: Ronnie Walker (aka gpssonar) Replication
Post by: Login to see usernames on May 04, 2016, 14:19:09 pm
probably was not clear that i mean that using the chokes as primary is different than using it as secondary..


the amp inhibitor coil was on external core... in many drawings and a coil on a external core receiving pulsed dc flows currnt in only one direction althohugh there is a voltge flip to keep the currnt flowing...

meyer say he have a charging choke on both sides of the cell

And then both chokes discharging positive to the cell?



A charging choke in sense of a secondairy coil?
So, 2 cores. Both with a primary for charging up the secondairys (chokes)?
Title: Re: Ronnie Walker (aka gpssonar) Replication
Post by: Login to see usernames on May 04, 2016, 14:27:40 pm
what i mean is the chokes being th secondary (pulsed by a primary) and they are conncted to th cell and on th other side to the diode and another coil (not pulsed) closing the circuit ... like reversing where the pulse come ... instead of the (secondary) applyiung a voltag to th chokes.. the chokes appy a voltage on the "secondary" amp inhb coil
Title: Re: Ronnie Walker (aka gpssonar) Replication
Post by: Login to see usernames on May 04, 2016, 21:32:35 pm
Sebosfato There was 1 vic per tube. i cant undestand why people is wiring it in series, or parallel...
Did anyone figured out how feedback coil works? Did all of you know why is a 5v present on the feedback wire via resistor?

I am still waiting what people calls "flux cancellation"...

I hope it opens some minds.
Title: Re: Ronnie Walker (aka gpssonar) Replication
Post by: Login to see usernames on May 04, 2016, 22:48:39 pm
This one:

(http://open-source-energy.org/?action=dlattach;topic=876.0;attach=9033;image)

look into topic here, page 89:
http://open-source-energy.org/?topic=876.2200 (http://open-source-energy.org/?topic=876.2200)

Im waiting on an account activation email to join to see...
That groups policies were if you share and dont explain do not  post.

I'd like to see it but they must not be accepting new members.
Title: Re: Ronnie Walker (aka gpssonar) Replication
Post by: Login to see usernames on May 04, 2016, 23:39:09 pm
well there was 11 tubes and 11 vic but i´m talking about anotherthing.. i´m saying that paralleling the vics is possible since it does not sum amps since they restrict the amps... and that it would increase the force of the voltage ...

he could have used all 11 vics for just one tube or maybe 11tubes for 1 vic

the point really is that we get to find the proper frequency and coils sizes for it

the feed back coils and ckt work but need some modification you find in my project section...

the 5v in my view act to reduce the sensibility of the amplifier.... also the diode you see between the transistor and ground also impeed the led to false turn on since the output will not be rail to rail... 
Title: Re: Ronnie Walker (aka gpssonar) Replication
Post by: Login to see usernames on May 05, 2016, 00:38:05 am
Sebosfato, no.

This opamp is acting as a comparator.

Google this "opamp as comparator"

The 5V pullup line forces the opamp to be referenced at this level, and the output will feed the signal back to PLL ONLY WHEN IT RISES ABOVE THIS 5V LEVEL.

Out of resonance condition will cancel the flux of the entire core, and feedback will stay very low until "resonance" is achieved.

Anyone got the PDF patent (canadian) about tube cell resonant cavity? i have some words to quote and i lost my files.
Title: Re: Ronnie Walker (aka gpssonar) Replication
Post by: Login to see usernames on May 05, 2016, 00:45:36 am
well basicaly is what i just said... it reduce the sensitivity of the circuit ...

this opamp i used lm 318 is actually 4mv sensitive so in its case is not exactly a comparator because the opapamp has a back to back diode inside look the small words on the datasheet

this made me change the circuit as i described... i use a 1kohm resistors in series with the inputs and i use a coil in series to get 90degrees dephased signal at the back to back diodes in the circuit that goes before the input resistors to get resonance to lock on high voltage  ...the other resistors are 1M feedback and 100k to ground...

the feedback coil and this coil in series form a closed circuit thru the back to back diodes with no resistors therebetween the 5 volt give a reference point so that the inputs wont suffer
the input resistor receives about 300mv from the back to back diodes...

its possible to use a capacitor  too but i have found that because of the reactances a coils is better to keep the resonance out of the feedback circuit


whithout this change it will work but will not lock well on the high voltage point .. will be aways bellow or above.... or not at all
Title: Re: Ronnie Walker (aka gpssonar) Replication
Post by: Login to see usernames on May 05, 2016, 01:01:25 am
PLL is just a tool, it locks to the signal that is fed, like you and others know.

The trick is to provide conditions to feed only this signal when this condition occurs.

Sebosfato this is what i am talking about:
(http://www.circuitstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/741-IC-Non-Inverting-Comparator-Circuit.jpg)
Title: Re: Ronnie Walker (aka gpssonar) Replication
Post by: Login to see usernames on May 05, 2016, 01:12:19 am
right i think of this too

i have found that it locks at certain frequencies of the gate and at certain duty cycle... when gating of course..

the pll can follow a frequency.. .i used it to make a sweep changing a coil parameter... it follows briliantly

it maintain the circuit tuned at the highest possible voltage as you change the coils



Title: Re: Ronnie Walker (aka gpssonar) Replication
Post by: Login to see usernames on May 05, 2016, 01:13:00 am
My thoughts is that is inverting instead of non-inverting one on the example.

It work also to "transform" the sine wave or half sine wave from feedback into perfect square wave due to the action of this two diodes,
and gives some gain.

PLL will see always the same signal amplitude, square  wave pulses of good quality.
Title: Re: Ronnie Walker (aka gpssonar) Replication
Post by: Login to see usernames on May 05, 2016, 01:15:38 am
Bravo!

exactly that, the point is that one of the diode is constantly reversed biased by the 100kohm and 5v and ground.. this makes the opamp stay shut on low signal....


Title: Feed backcircuit
Post by: Login to see usernames on May 05, 2016, 10:08:16 am
here in attachment is one example of it... however instead of capacitors i use coils... the capacitors can be selected thru a switch or a resistor... but in my case coils work better

the capacitors are theoreticaly better at lower frequency... but will unavoidably become part of the resonant circuit,,,

again the 5v impeed anyhigh voltage to influx to the opamp...

you posted a 741 which is very slow for the task...

(http://www.ionizationx.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3096.0;attach=14677)