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Re: Freedman hydrogen generator
« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2022, 08:41:44 am »
I ran some tests with an hydrogen generator in a lab in the Netherlands.
Costed me a lot, but the results where unpayable :-)


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Re: Freedman hydrogen generator
« Reply #9 on: March 18, 2022, 22:16:02 pm »
Hello, it's not possible for a catalyst to last forever, the gibbs free energy of the water hydrolysis is positive and ΔG=-n F E because the redox potential is negative and if it's positive it can't happen spontaneously regardless of temperature, what happens with metals inside tap water that is conductive since it's full of ions is that the metal forms galvanic cells inside with the water acting as an electrolyte, if the voltage gradient between the metals exceeds -1.2V  hydrogen starts forming because this is the breakdown voltage for aqueous electrolytes, they even make a flashlight that works like this, you add tap or rain or bottled water and then it starts producing voltage but it doesn't last forever

if you don't believe me use deionized water instead

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Re: Freedman hydrogen generator
« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2022, 19:20:35 pm »
I have found all needed ingredients :) Im from Poland, are you Dutch Steve?
That's very likely that what you're saying is true Geon. In the second patent from 1960 we can read:
"Moreover when the alloy particles or shavings have been permitted to remain in the water for several hours, gas bubbles will emerge from the water and form on the surface. Each of these bubbles explodes upon the application of a match, showing that chemicals in the alloy shavings produce hydrogen and other gases when placed in water. A still more powerful effect is obtained when salt water is used."
The question is for how long may it last? Is it worth any attention in your opinion? Due to work with this rod I probably get lead poison. I had very bad head aches and badly hands shake for a few days, what is unusual for me. I'll have to be more careful next time 😉
Anyway, the melting furnace is already ordered, all materials I'll also order in this week. We will see if it will be able to produce more heat, than consume founds on materials :) and if I'll be able to melt it correctly at all 😜
When I'll have some interesting observations I'll let you know 😉 when I'll get more material I'll try to use deionized water as well.
BTW there was no air in the syringe last Saturday

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Re: Freedman hydrogen generator
« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2022, 19:40:06 pm »
Thats a lot of sickness...
Handcloves is a must then....
Poland! Nice. Yes, i am dutch, but i live in Germany, close to the border with Poland  :) 
My theory: there is clearly something reacting with something. That proces always consumes something.

Or the rods have voltage potential between all components and creates hydrogen.....

Run tests and then find out, is it.
When you are done, or on a hold, or at a dead end, please contact me. I have then something for you to play with....

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Re: Freedman hydrogen generator
« Reply #12 on: March 20, 2022, 07:22:49 am »
If you have lead poisoning it won't go away, lead is bioaccumulation meaning it goes to fatty regions of the body and the biggest one is the brain, you have a few days to get chelators to trap heavy metals, a natural one is vitamic c but there are more potent ones in the pharmacy.

Manganese and copper is a better combination, they already use aluminum powder to mass-produce hydrogen from water. There's also a way to produce hydrogen from water directly from sunlight with TiO2, it's actually a problem with aqueous electrolytes, water breakdowns at 1.1-1.2V so you cant use it for high energy density battery system.

here https://energy.mit.edu/news/using-aluminum-and-water-to-make-clean-hydrogen-fuel-when-and-where-its-needed/