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Re: ALTERNATOR
« Reply #144 on: October 24, 2010, 19:57:00 pm »
Yes i understand this... and i think that is what is happening here, up to a point... because things are behaving strange


lets say 10 hz


my field coil has 3 ohms also and 22mh


so at ten hertz the reactance impedance should be 1,4 ohms



so the impedance should be around 4 ohms this should make at least 3 amps flow having 13v, but i'm getting 260ma ..


Is very strange for me... Seems like the armature add a kind of extra impedance to the change of the current direction-- but i'm not sure if this is the case.. .will keep experimenting,


i'm going to try adding a capacitor in parallel or a diode to the field coil and check what happens!


Oh and the most stranger behavior is that at a frequency higher than 10khz the amps start to get higher... at 100khz i get 1,20 amps...


I don't know if is the meter witch is crap... i'm going to try with the other meter witch can measure dc or ac current...


Thanks Donald   


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Re: ALTERNATOR
« Reply #145 on: March 30, 2022, 23:30:45 pm »
My alternator  setup

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« Reply #146 on: March 31, 2022, 08:46:51 am »
That was an strange behavior i still don’t know what was happening but still get that alternator here and is going to be put to test soon... it seems like yours but time consumed the wood i used as base..

You have a nice setup. compliments.. have you tried pulsing it?

i was looking about 3 phases and found something interesting

https://www.tutorialspoint.com/3-phase-induction-motor-definition-working-principle-advantages-and-disadvantages#:~:text=A%203%2Dphase%20induction%20motor,a%20stator%20and%20a%20rotor.

Disadvantages of Three Phase Induction Motor
The disadvantages of a 3-phase induction motor are given as follows −

The 3-phase induction motors are constant speed motors; hence their speed control is very difficult.
3-phase induction motors have poor starting torque and high inrush currents (about 4 to 8 times of the rated current).
They always operate under lagging power factor and during light loads, they operate at very worst power factor (about 0.3 to 0.5 lagging).

Its a kind of transformer with a shorted coil... it pulls the coil forwards and it keeps going...

 
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Re: ALTERNATOR
« Reply #147 on: March 31, 2022, 13:28:22 pm »
My alternator  setup

Nice!
the bubbles escape your cell :-)

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« Reply #148 on: April 12, 2022, 09:05:10 am »
Multiphase has being in my Mind for days…

Somehow I think the alternator may be the easiest way to get good gas going

Along with infrared, pressure control or maybe vacuum

And probably capacitors to allow the resonance to come over

Meyer mention the tay he Han patent and most probably he used this tech into his and was likely one of the secrets

I think the cell must operate in very much like the way I did the tests 14 years ago but instead using two coils for the resonance at least

The reason is that is was not doubling the frequency… I had the coil and capacitors only on the outer tubes with the diodes back to back from outer to inner tubes in that two isolated cells prototype

So having another coil would let the frequency to double at each capacitor

Also I think the primary must have two sections and two drivers…

For the three phase may not be different but need 3 sets of electordes capacitors a motor to use as a coil conected to the belt and a driver 3 phase for it…

I was thinking of something of gas come out ionized there will always be a deficit of electrons in the cell and subtle capacitance is between the cell and secondary….  It depends if should Be in parallel or series…

The idea of multiphase seems to me like a way to get reactive power to be useful waking the fields thru the cells

I hope to get some time to get my alternator configured to test like this soon

Also want to try the Vic ideas…


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Why the outer tube is the positive?
« Reply #149 on: April 12, 2022, 09:10:52 am »
I was thinking about the water molecule and the way we imagine it is like a two hydrogen molecules and one of oxigênio and when it’s in gas phase they would have the same molecular size however in water molecule liquid the hydrogen may be just a small point near 8 times bigger oxygen atom

So the bigger atom need higher surface to align better?


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« Reply #150 on: April 12, 2022, 15:56:33 pm »
Fabio, i dont understand your question here....
Can you re write it?
Bigger in sense of more mass?
And where did you read that in the gassious state, the hydrogen and oxygen atoms have the same size?


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« Reply #151 on: April 13, 2022, 07:10:26 am »
All the gas molecules have the same volume at same pressure and temperature that’s what I mean… for example hydrogen is two parts and oxygen one although it’s 8 time heavier when we split the molecule

However in water molecule form the oxygen is much bigger so in liquid state the oxigên oxygen occupy a larger space and so maybe the radial configuration should be better with the positive from the outer electrode…just a guesss