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Making it run with water…. Let’s give it a shot guys.
« on: November 15, 2022, 18:34:51 pm »
I planned on opening this thread a lil different then I’m forced to do by the time constraints I had on me in gathering the base parts to this system. First I wanna take a moment to thank Steve again for his help. This is what I gathered so far towards a proof of concept system. I had to go to Columbus to grab a generator which is taking the place of the van I use to use for testing purposes. To bring it up  to par with the old system I ran in van I need to get another  stand alone fuel and ignition like the megasquirt.    I stopped for a photo op and to get Stans blessing on this machine at the place it all began. Stan’s house where you see the Dune buggy in front of in so many of the pictures and videos.  This will be slow moving as resources and space are scarce. I’m working on both though. I have a few of the old parts to revisit for this attempt. Mainly the dry cell and fogger. I looking to not create HHO gas but to ionize the water or the froth we see on top of the cells when running. I’m going to attempt to pressurize the froth to 25psi and inject it as the fuel. If one listens to Arron Saulter Jr explain the operation of his system he states it works from the pressure. I have not pressurized anything since my first HHO cell which ended in a horrendous explosion. Since then everything was built to relieve pressure. However there could be a chance the pressure is  in fact necessary to use water as a fuel. AGAIN I AM NOT PRESSURIZING HHO IT WILL AUTO-IGNITE UNDER PRESSURE. DON’T PRESSURIZE HHO. I’m looking to pressurize the water after being treated by the fuel cell or ionized. Does anyone here know what pressure the HHO auto-ignites at?

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« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2022, 19:56:08 pm »
Nice picture. really unique  :) Stans house....

I am really looking forward to see if you get some results with the pressurised water.

My 2 cents on that:
An old friend said that if you take an old type of diesel engine and replace dieselfuel with water, it will run?

I didnt have the means to followe that one up, and it is a long shot, i think.....But the rumors came from trust worthy people....

Anyway, i would heat up the engine first on petrol and then switch to water...
And mayby you need to ionize the ambient air as well, to get better results.
I can help you with that, as i have been succesfull with that, while running my motorbike on HHO...

Cheers my friend!



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« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2022, 17:11:55 pm »
Hi Steve,
Thank you for the insight. I have kicked around the idea that a diesel would produce the desired results over the gasoline motor . I have also seen Dudley Engineering’s gas motor running without cooling fins. I believe he told me the same thing about priming with gas to get the heat and  then cutting off the fins to allow the engine to Stay warm enough. Maybe I should sell the gen and get a small diesel gen from a motorhome then? Another 100-200 psi of compression should get things to auto ignite.

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« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2022, 06:47:54 am »
I planned on opening this thread a lil different then I’m forced to do by the time constraints I had on me in gathering the base parts to this system. First I wanna take a moment to thank Steve again for his help. This is what I gathered so far towards a proof of concept system. I had to go to Columbus to grab a generator which is taking the place of the van I use to use for testing purposes. To bring it up  to par with the old system I ran in van I need to get another  stand alone fuel and ignition like the megasquirt.    I stopped for a photo op and to get Stans blessing on this machine at the place it all began. Stan’s house where you see the Dune buggy in front of in so many of the pictures and videos.  This will be slow moving as resources and space are scarce. I’m working on both though. I have a few of the old parts to revisit for this attempt. Mainly the dry cell and fogger. I looking to not create HHO gas but to ionize the water or the froth we see on top of the cells when running. I’m going to attempt to pressurize the froth to 25psi and inject it as the fuel. If one listens to Arron Saulter Jr explain the operation of his system he states it works from the pressure. I have not pressurized anything since my first HHO cell which ended in a horrendous explosion. Since then everything was built to relieve pressure. However there could be a chance the pressure is  in fact necessary to use water as a fuel. AGAIN I AM NOT PRESSURIZING HHO IT WILL AUTO-IGNITE UNDER PRESSURE. DON’T PRESSURIZE HHO. I’m looking to pressurize the water after being treated by the fuel cell or ionized. Does anyone here know what pressure the HHO auto-ignites at?

It depends on ratio and temperature… basically the closer the molecules get the lower the required energy up to a point that the internal energy is enough to trigger and maintain the reaction…

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« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2022, 01:05:06 am »
Finally found a diesel motor to try out. It’s a 2 cyl 23hp with hydraulic pump on it.

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« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2022, 01:11:50 am »
These may be my last post here about anything too technical. I recently found a group of investors starting an automotive school in the area. I was brought in by a friend to show them this project and was recruited to be head of R&D for the school. Tomorrow I may be signing my life a way in a NDA. I’ve tidied to find help keeping this open to all but it doesn’t seem to work like that. So I will continue to post time to time and let u know where we are with tongs but I’ll no longer be able to discuss what I am doing. I’m not sure if we can kick around ideas or theories as of yet even. I’ll know more later. Maybe even have a copy of  the new rules any advice or suggestions to make sure I’m covered in the NDA would be appreciated.

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« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2022, 13:05:31 pm »
The advice would always be never sign anything about something you don’t have. Use with caution…
The worst thing is you are paid to discover something and after that some one is paid to finish you because you don’t agree anymore to stay quiet… be careful people and money don’t work well together… never disappoint them…

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« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2022, 19:19:20 pm »
These may be my last post here about anything too technical. I recently found a group of investors starting an automotive school in the area. I was brought in by a friend to show them this project and was recruited to be head of R&D for the school. Tomorrow I may be signing my life a way in a NDA. I’ve tidied to find help keeping this open to all but it doesn’t seem to work like that. So I will continue to post time to time and let u know where we are with tongs but I’ll no longer be able to discuss what I am doing. I’m not sure if we can kick around ideas or theories as of yet even. I’ll know more later. Maybe even have a copy of  the new rules any advice or suggestions to make sure I’m covered in the NDA would be appreciated.

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Hi, my friend. I want to congratulate you.
It sounds like a great opportunity on a stable life with a normal income. That is already a lot to have.
Go for it :-)

In your freetime, you can always continue the water power project ;-)

Happy christmas