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The Water Fuel Cell as a transistor
« on: January 20, 2012, 01:30:18 am »
In Blogtalkradio interview # 4 with Stephen Meyer (Stan's twin brother and electrical engineer) Stephen talked about the Water Fuel Cell and it's symmetry with a transistor.

Semiconductors are made by adding impurities to a material to make either an N type or P type material.

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/solids/dope.html#c2


Stephen also states the use of the Stainless Steel material is important. Noting that the material is mostly iron, impurities are added to make the stainless steel. The impurities being Nickel and Chromium.


The water fuel cell is very much like a schottky barrier which is a potential barrier formed at a metal-semiconductor junction.
(In a metal semiconductor junction the metal is a N type material.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schottky_barrier

As we know water is conductive, the conductivity of water largely depends on the impurities.
(Water is really a semiconductor)

When we combine water and Stainless steel we have just created a Schottky junction/barrier. If a potential is applied and the junction is correctly biased electrons will flow out of the Stainless steel's Fermi layer and into the water.

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/solids/band.html#c5




What is also interesting in the reason why electrolyte is added to the water in electrolysis.
Basically in electrolysis a depletion layer forms at each electrode which blocks current flow and halts the electrolysis process.

In order for the process to continue current must flow.
This can be done by adding an electrolyte, or by increasing the voltage across the cell.

“Unless a very large potential is applied to cause an increase in the autoionization of water the electrolysis of pure water proceeds very slowly limited by the overall conductivity.” -Wikipedia Electrolysis of water-electrolyte selection



It seems like Stephen is hinting that the barrier which is formed allows access to a huge amount of electrons from the fermi layer. But for this to occur the junction must be biased. And if biased correctly more electrons will be released from the stainless steel's Fermi layer than will travel through the circuit. Also, the high voltage will increase the autoionization of the water which allows the efficiency to increase!


Now the question to ask is.....Would it be possible that more electrons will be released from the Fermi layer than the electrons which actually flow through the circuit?   

There is one paper I found which has a lot of similarities to what I described above....

"  A simple model to determine the trends of electric field enhanced water disassociation in a bipolar membrane  "

   Link:http://membrane.ustc.edu.cn/paper/pdf/11.pdf
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Re: The Water Fuel Cell as a transistor
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2012, 18:11:54 pm »
I think you are on the right track.

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Re: The Water Fuel Cell as a transistor
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2012, 18:25:04 pm »
I think so also, after listenting to Stephen's initerview multiple times and researching all that he was saying it makes sense.
Stephen also states that he spent 9 years trying to figure it out, and the explanation I gave above was the same thing he explained. Not to mentione he's an electrical engineer who worked with Stan on the technology.

For those of you who are wanting to hear Stephen Meyer's radio interview about it here's the link (Thanks Tonyw).

http://globalkast.com/othermedia.htm

It's Stephen Meyer interview 4/14/2007 Part 4
« Last Edit: January 28, 2012, 04:07:19 am by HMS-776 »