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Re: Meyers may have pulsed with 2 transistors
« Reply #56 on: June 12, 2009, 03:16:53 am »
I was going to let it pass, but due to your lack of respect, this is your second strike.

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Re: Meyers may have pulsed with 2 transistors
« Reply #57 on: June 12, 2009, 03:22:30 am »
@Outlawstc
 :o

You hit it on the head....I agree with your analogies most completely. It's a pleasure to see others expanding their horizons. You have made the connection...you see how existence is a fractal....everything is smaller or larger versions of the same! Different yet the same....

I will PM you later with my take on the longitudinal primary (that's exactly what Meyer lays out....I don't think he ever realized that epoch of design)

We have to remember that Stan was evolving his system....he was trying to achieve perfection in amp restriction. By turning the primary 90 degrees the interaction of coils would be a complex spiral that is a product...or a tangent of the two coils EM fields.
I will talk with you more about it.

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Re: Meyers may have pulsed with 2 transistors
« Reply #58 on: June 12, 2009, 03:32:33 am »
@Outlawstc
 :o

You hit it on the head....I agree with your analogies most completely. It's a pleasure to see others expanding their horizons. You have made the connection...you see how existence is a fractal....everything is smaller or larger versions of the same! Different yet the same....

I will PM you later with my take on the longitudinal primary (that's exactly what Meyer lays out....I don't think he ever realized that epoch of design)

We have to remember that Stan was evolving his system....he was trying to achieve perfection in amp restriction. By turning the primary 90 degrees the interaction of coils would be a complex spiral that is a product...or a tangent of the two coils EM fields.
I will talk with you more about it.

i am curious to hear more about the longitudinal primary, do you care to share a few more thoughts on it?

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Re: Meyers may have pulsed with 2 transistors
« Reply #59 on: June 12, 2009, 03:36:55 am »
@Jolt
Serious? My second strike?

That's funny, you say,
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due to your lack of respect

But, what exactly would you call this?
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But if most of you blind believers did some real testing you would know this by now.

I would say that's pretty disrespectful....I believe you took me wrong....I meant you have no idea of what I speak of, or where I come from.

What do u mean 2nd strike?...are u trying to intimidate me? Ur not an admin are u?
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Re: Meyers may have pulsed with 2 transistors
« Reply #60 on: June 12, 2009, 04:18:19 am »
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You hit it on the head....I agree with your analogies most completely. It's a pleasure to see others expanding their horizons. You have made the connection...you see how existence is a fractal....everything is smaller or larger versions of the same! Different yet the same....

I will PM you later with my take on the longitudinal primary (that's exactly what Meyer lays out....I don't think he ever realized that epoch of design)

We have to remember that Stan was evolving his system....he was trying to achieve perfection in amp restriction. By turning the primary 90 degrees the interaction of coils would be a complex spiral that is a product...or a tangent of the two coils EM fields.



as for winding the core i say you would take somthin like a playing card in demension.. somthing that can cuff around the delrin bobbin and chokes windings.. stans says it is wound logitudinal in space relationship... when i speak of practice you need to read key points more then once.. you dont get much on one pass of reading.. when i read this tech i will repeat a sentience several times in a row in my head.. i practice.. which in return has brought clarity.. the answers stare us in the face everyday.. well at least the ones who read..
anyways back to the point.. space relationship and logitudinal are the right question.. anyone who knows cordinates and maps know that longitude lines on a map are traveling north to south.. ok now which side of the vic is north and which is south? they are the flat sides of the bobbin.. the chokes and secondary are wound east to west.. so you do the math.. which is north and south..   so maybe take the playing card wind flat 2-d lines on it.. with will make them bidirectional layed.. like stan says as well... now every piece of the puzzle fits in place.. word for word..     cuff it around the core with  wires running longitudinal..


yea i started catching on like 4 months ago.. its amazing how your views change when you understand. the basics..

so you also see how you can get way way way more heneries in one turn around the core? since you have to wind your way around the core and not wind your way down the core..


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Re: Meyers may have pulsed with 2 transistors
« Reply #61 on: June 12, 2009, 06:16:39 am »
thank you, that does explain a lot, very good description. i have never heard of this anywhere else before so it would be interesting to test, i don't know if it would work... but testing will determine.

if you were to take a single loop of wire and cover it in soap to make a bubble-film-layer, then the magnetic flux through the loop would go through one layer of bubble-film, meaning 1 turn, if you had two loops, the bubble-film would make 2 layers, for 2 turns, and if you had 100 loops, the magnetic flux would travel through 100 layers of bubble film for 100 turns... this is the concept of how the flux works and how 'turns' work, if you were to imagine a surface like bubble-film connecting all the loops, each layer through the coil increases the effect by so much.

so if you were to wrap a coil around a playing card, or piece of cardboard from a cereal box, and then wrap that around the primary bobbin cavity in the VIC, then all your bubble-layers would be in the center of the coil where the cardboard is, like a tall thin toroid, and your turns would count as the wraps around this cardboard, and yours flux path would be inside the coil... like a tall thin toroid... so how would this interact with the other coils?

all i can say is it is very interesting, and i hope a few of you try it, i'll try it when i get to that stage

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Re: Meyers may have pulsed with 2 transistors
« Reply #62 on: June 12, 2009, 06:39:34 am »
its pumping the core  to where the core is producing a "Poynting Flow".. this i think will cause the core to polarized giving it a north and south.. i have been preaching this for over 3 months.. sombody please try this concept.. i have a feeling its going to show great results... think how that signal will travel on a wind like the cuff... throw some views out of what you thinks going on in that case i would love to hear some perspectives


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Re: Meyers may have pulsed with 2 transistors
« Reply #63 on: June 12, 2009, 09:23:07 am »
@Outlaw
While the coils are wound east-west...the wire has a spinning corkscrew of magnetic field around it....when you spiral the wire around a core, these corkscrews of EM energy all add together in series in a gearwise fashion. These spins all accumulate to create a double sided vortex of B-flow....in one end of the coil...out the other. The core acts as a flux path...where all magnetic fields are sucked into it...instead of being evenly distributed. This intensifies the field in a smaller area creating a much more intense localized vortex.
Look here
http://creatorguy.com/files/Ortho1.pdf

By crossing coils at 90 degree phase, you will create a complex spiraling B-field....this may intensify the field even more, by creating a ball, or torus of B-field in the center of the core...EMF simulation would need to be run to see what would happen for sure.

But, listen very intently to this video, especially when they describe what they call a "Tesla Extra Coil" (Not really an extra coil)...they talk about the winding creating a complex spiral that speeds up the wave propagation beyond the speed of light.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-721789270445596549&ei=jgIySomAEJX-qAPx6qzqAw&q=borderland+science+longitudinal+wave&hl=en&client=firefox-a

Also note the "transmission lines" they show, and note inductor and capacitor behavior in the two different configurations.