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RF waves and UV waves improve electrolysis proces

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Steve:

--- Quote from: Dankie on July 25, 2010, 05:45:37 am ---I think its a wonderful idea , if we can control the freq of this too it would be good for testing .

So we need fast collapse with big inductor to make this efficient , we need high voltage correct ?

1 thing I see hard , shape of cell .

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Dankie,
Any sparking device should have some influence....
 
Like: http://wiki.4hv.org/index.php/Flyback
 
or
 
http://www.powerlabs.org/flybackdriver.htm
 
 
I suspect Daniel Dingle of doing a similar thing. There was found a second ignitioncoil in his setup.
 
We can also use your circuit and drive an ignitioncoil. Depending on the voltage applied to the coil, we have to adjust the sparkgap.
If we use sparkplugs as sparkgap, then we can have a very simple but working setup, is it.
 
Now: I NEED A MATERIAL THAT WE CAN USE A PLATE OR TUBE WHICH LET UV THRU FROM ABOUT 125NM.......
Anybody any ideas?
 
 
Steve
 
 

Steve:
Found some material that comes very close:
 
http://www.escoproducts.com/html/s1-uv_fused_silica.html
 
from 180nm it is transmitting UVC thru.
 
A sheet of this glass from like 4 inch by 4 inch by 1mm costs like 230 dollars........
Can anybody donate me some money for this experiment????????
 
 
 
 
 
Steve
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Steve:
ACRYLITE OP-1
 
Spectrosil┬« Quartz    170 through 2700 nm

 
PMMA   285nm to 750nm
 
 

 

Steve:
Water absorbing frequency's
 
The blue effect is often increased because  ocean and lake water usually contains floating particles of dirt, and dead and living plants and animals. They help reflect the blue light back upward - so that the lake or ocean looks blue. The blue-green of tropical waters is due entirely to absorption of red light rather then suspension of particles. It's a different blue than the blue of the oceans off the northeast coast, whose blue is caused by suspended particles and plants..
 
 
 
Absorption[/color][/font]Light is absorbed as it passes through the water, and much of it is lost in the process. In addition, the spectral components of light, the wavelengths that give rise to our perception of color, are differentially absorbed. Transmission of light through air does not appreciably change its spectral composition, but transmitting light through water, even through the clearest water, does, and this can change the resulting color appearance beyond recognition. In clearest water, long wavelength or red light is lost first, being absorbed at relatively shallow depths. Orange is filtered out next, followed by yellow, green, and then blue. Other waters, particularly coastal waters, contain silt, decomposing plant and animal material, and plankton and a variety of possible pollutants, which add their specific absorptions to that of the water. Plankton, for example, absorb violets and blues, the colors transmitted best by clear water. The amount of material suspended in some harbor water is frequently sufficient to alter the transmission curve completely; not only is very little light transmitted, but the long wavelengths may be transmitted better than the short, a complete reversal of the situation in clear water.
 
@ all:
 
If the sparks with UV and rf radiation can fill the watermol, then it looks like it would be easier to separate the H and O and will cost less power to do so.
 
 
 
 
 

Steve:
Water molecules absorb red light weakly and infra-red strongly because the molecules vibrate greatly in the infra-red frequencies. They resonate&shy;that is, they vibrate a greater amount at that frequency like a gong vibrates and "bongs" when hit with a hammer.   The vibrating molecules get hotter due to their motion, like those in a bowl of water warming in the summer's sun.   Occasionally water molecules absorb visible red light. Since the effect is faint, it takes many molecules&shy;about nine feet of water depth--to absorb enough red light so the blue of the water is noticeable. That's why a glass of water looks clear.   
Water is a remarkable substance: it is the only abundant material whose color is due vibrating molecules
Light interacts with electrons to color everything else we see.   
 
The whole water molecule vibrates in three ways: one way like a Mickey Mouse with flapping ears. A water molecule consists of two small atoms of hydrogen arranged in a bent fashion about a larger atom of oxygen. The vibration brings the hydrogen "ears" together and apart. This vibration occurs at the lowest frequency, in the infra-red.
The other two vibrations are twice as energetic and involve a stretching of the bonds holding the oxygen and hydrogen atoms together. Even these vibrations, however, oscillate at heat frequencies below what we see.
 
 
 http://www.wonderquest.com/DeepWaterColors.htm

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