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Title: Ionization of HHO, the hunt for magnet gas or change of flamecolor
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 13, 2010, 21:39:01 pm
Hi dear fellows,

Today i have started using HV pulses into the HHO gas.
For that, i used 3 needles and punched them into my HHO hose.
To prevend of blowing my wfc up, i used a water bubler and after that a flashback arrestor. After that arrestor, i used hose in which i inserted the 3 needle tips.

The HV came from a MOT of 3KV and a HV bridgerectifier.

Many tests where done.

Results:
No change of flame color or height.

However, i did notice some spikes on my scope from my pickupcoil, who was placed directly after the needletips, around the hose.

When i put my finger at the end of the hose and shut the flow of HHO off, i noticed that the little spikes wend away and as soon as i let the gas flow free, the little spikes came back.

But no big revelations. No big currentgain, or voltage gain....
Just a small indication.

The end of the tests ended up with a big bang.....as usual...hahahahahaha
(I had kept up the flow of HHO to long closed and after releaving my finger, a hugh flow of HHO came free, along with some water.....)
The water acted as conductor and a spark was the result in the HHO hose.
Kabooom....

Its on tape, but my screem at the end looks like one of somebody dieing.... ;)
1 ear is a bit deaf....


Steve

























Title: Re: Ionization of HHO, the hunt for magnet gas or change of flamecolor
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 13, 2010, 21:43:21 pm

3kv is propably to low.
The idea was to ionize the oxygen atom and not the hydrogen, just like Stan shows in his patents.

I do have 7kv circuit here that acts in the khz range. That might be the next step. More volts = more ionization of gasses.



Title: Re: Ionization of HHO, the hunt for magnet gas or change of flamecolor
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 13, 2010, 22:06:02 pm
Good idea ,what did that Tutanko guy do ?

Hes probably a fraud by now , 95% chance .
Title: Re: Ionization of HHO, the hunt for magnet gas or change of flamecolor
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 13, 2010, 22:09:41 pm
Good idea ,what did that Tutanko guy do ?

God dam idiot , he really is a douchebag .

He is probably the same as all the others. Scam, till proven otherwise, Dankie.
When people make announces, like that rosco dude, then its a sign for hunting dollars....
Glen wrote a good post on that.

Steve






Title: Re: Ionization of HHO, the hunt for magnet gas or change of flamecolor
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 13, 2010, 22:37:57 pm
Good idea ,what did that Tutanko guy do ?

God dam idiot , he really is a douchebag .

He is probably the same as all the others. Scam, till proven otherwise, Dankie.
When people make announces, like that rosco dude, then its a sign for hunting dollars....
Glen wrote a good post on that.

Steve

Steve , plz lend me your account so I can go blast this fool .

We need some real questions in that thread, like where the hell is the video that gives that guy such nerve .
Title: Re: Ionization of HHO, the hunt for magnet gas or change of flamecolor
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 13, 2010, 23:31:20 pm
Good idea ,what did that Tutanko guy do ?

God dam idiot , he really is a douchebag .

He is probably the same as all the others. Scam, till proven otherwise, Dankie.
When people make announces, like that rosco dude, then its a sign for hunting dollars....
Glen wrote a good post on that.

Steve

Steve , plz lend me your account so I can go blast this fool .

We need some real questions in that thread, like where the hell is the video that gives that guy such nerve .

That question is already asked, if i can remember well.
Relax Dankie.
Maybe they will surprise us. You never know.
Probably never........



Title: Re: Ionization of HHO, the hunt for magnet gas or change of flamecolor
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 14, 2010, 10:43:57 am
Sebos:

here are 2 pics.
1 with HHO flowing and 1 without HHO.
You will see the difference.

and i also added the uncut version of Steve dieing in his lab...

Steve
Title: Re: Ionization of HHO, the hunt for magnet gas or change of flamecolor
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 14, 2010, 14:43:51 pm
Hope you didn't got hurt. Remember when i said it could be dangerous...

Thats very interesting pictures, can you gives more details like what's the scale on the scope and how many turns on the coil? Were you using the copper tubing or plastic? ... 

You said 2 thousand volts wow how did you arranged it ? you could maybe add some rings (copper tube ring maybe 1 cm long) inside a plastic tube intercalating negative and positive to ionize the gas and also accelerate it... What do you think?...

Best Regards my friend
Sebos
Title: Re: Ionization of HHO, the hunt for magnet gas or change of flamecolor
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 19, 2010, 13:46:28 pm
Hi Steve
                      just browsing here, I will ask some dum questions,  what was the size hole in your gun the tip nozel hole?

                    What I am going to ask you to do maybe extreemly dangerious,

                    are you trying to ionise the HHO, I do not think that you will be able to with HV. however there maybe a way that you could intoduce the HHO into an ionized air stream not sure what it would acheive but it could be fun or dam right dangerious, you would not need high voltage to do it.
if you are interested I will draw up what I was thinking.   
aussepom
Title: Re: Ionization of HHO, the hunt for magnet gas or change of flamecolor
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 19, 2010, 22:26:55 pm
Hi Steve
                      just browsing here, I will ask some dum questions,  what was the size hole in your gun the tip nozel hole?

                    What I am going to ask you to do maybe extreemly dangerious,

                    are you trying to ionise the HHO, I do not think that you will be able to with HV. however there maybe a way that you could intoduce the HHO into an ionized air stream not sure what it would acheive but it could be fun or dam right dangerious, you would not need high voltage to do it.
if you are interested I will draw up what I was thinking.   
aussepom

Well, i died almost, for the second time in my HHO carrieer....so a up to the third one.... ;)

To answer your question: yes, please. You already helped me a lot with my current 90% efficient platecell, Brian.
If you have any idea's on this ionizing issue, please do so.

Steve
Title: Re: Ionization of HHO, the hunt for magnet gas or change of flamecolor
Post by: Login to see usernames on May 23, 2010, 12:20:32 pm
Go Here
http://www.pat2pdf.org/pat2pdf/foo.pl
And enter Patent # 4519357

You May be able to use this HV with HHO as one Electrode is isolated by Glass tube.
FrznWtr
Title: Re: Ionization of HHO, the hunt for magnet gas or change of flamecolor
Post by: Login to see usernames on May 24, 2010, 00:00:23 am
@ Frozenwater

Thank you for this patent. This topic was to find out if we could get a magnetic HHO. Sofar i nor others could not prove or confirm this theory of Stan Meyer.
I do however managed to make an ambient air ionizer that works pretty well with an engine running 100% on HHO.

@ Aussepom
So this is the schematic of the Ausse injector?
At this moment i am not sure if the HHO should be ionized with help of an ionizer. The proces might be difficult and dangerous. The end product which runs an engine is as far as i can see a mix of H, O, N and multiple comby's like
ammonia NH3. To get a part NH3 we only have to ionize ambient air.
I have not the test equipment to measure the types of gas in my engine, but i seen the effects of negative ionization of ambient air.

What do you suggest here? Should i try to ionize the HHO as well? Some parts of the HHO from electrolysis is already ionized....


Steve









Title: Re: Ionization of HHO, the hunt for magnet gas or change of flamecolor
Post by: Login to see usernames on May 24, 2010, 00:52:30 am
Wouldn't an injector approach be the proper application in this situation?
Title: Re: Ionization of HHO, the hunt for magnet gas or change of flamecolor
Post by: Login to see usernames on May 24, 2010, 02:45:49 am
Hi Steve
                  this is not the main unit but the little pipe injector, Now to get H2 from NH3 is easy it is done as part of my waste treatment process, why is it easy because the H2 is 'loosly bonded' as that there is one extra H , Hydrogen will only come away or separate in 'pairs', this is why Hydroxcy is a 'streatched gas' unit, NH3 will loose one H quite easily, if done in proxcimity of more NH3, two of the H will form H2 as a gas and float to the surface, the trick is it has to be done in low oxygen water.
As for the hydroxy then there is another way that you could get it to the ionisation stage, this does involve a magnetic field, and should work, it does on 'air'.
how ever this is a cost in power so I do not know if it will save any thing in the long run.
but providing that the power is all comming from the ICE I supose that it does not matter.  it is a simple set up, I will try and draw it up fo you.
aussepom
Title: Re: Ionization of HHO, the hunt for magnet gas or change of flamecolor
Post by: Login to see usernames on May 24, 2010, 10:02:20 am
Hi Steve
                  this is not the main unit but the little pipe injector, Now to get H2 from NH3 is easy it is done as part of my waste treatment process, why is it easy because the H2 is 'loosly bonded' as that there is one extr H , Hydrogen will only come away or separate in 'pairs', this is why Hydroxcy is a 'streatched gas' unit, NH3 will loose on H quite easily, if done in proxcimity of more NH3, two of the H will form H2 as a gas and float to the surface, the trick is it has to be done in low oxygen water.
As for the hydroxy then there is another way that you could get it to the ionisation stage, this does involve a magnetic field, and should work, it does on 'air'.
how ever this is a cost in power so I do not know if it will save any thing in the long run.
but providing that the power is all comming from the ICE I supose that it does not matter.  it is a simple set up, I will try and draw it up fo you.
aussepom

Please do so. Your designs have worked always and are very good.

Steve
Title: Re: Ionization of HHO, the hunt for magnet gas or change of flamecolor
Post by: Login to see usernames on May 24, 2010, 15:08:53 pm
Hi Steve
  the process is known, and is used, but to apply it in this way has not been used as far as I know.
aussepom