### Author Topic: Theory - Coil Calculations to Restrict Amps (CONFIRMED)  (Read 26329 times)

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« Reply #16 on: September 23, 2012, 19:51:52 pm »
Hello ts i just watched your video... it seems in the other video it was locking better isn't ?

I got great news...

Meyers did indicate it can achieve resonance at different frequencies.  You may notice it was at different frequency in my latest video than my previous one.

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« Reply #17 on: September 23, 2012, 19:53:16 pm »
My best guess is that the purer is the water the better it would be to apply high voltage fields at higher efficiency...

Agreed.  However current limiting is still essential.

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« Reply #18 on: September 23, 2012, 19:55:45 pm »
Nobody comments on water type. Water varries and we believe stan used well water which is very clean but in his case also very hard, 32 grains hard.

I don't believe water type is important at all.  Just that should contain no electrolyte.  This would correspond with Meyers claim that any kind of water can be used.

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« Reply #19 on: December 29, 2012, 06:33:11 am »
My best guess is that the purer is the water the better it would be to apply high voltage fields at higher efficiency...

I believe this to be half true. The purer the water the higher voltage we can achieve but this also means we are performing less work with our voltage.

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« Reply #20 on: December 29, 2012, 14:26:05 pm »
My best guess is that the purer is the water the better it would be to apply high voltage fields at higher efficiency...

I believe this to be half true. The purer the water the higher voltage we can achieve but this also means we are performing less work with our voltage.

I do not agree at all with your comment.

See this video.  Which do you suppose is doing more "work"?  The single cell at 9V or the 244?

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« Reply #21 on: December 29, 2012, 15:40:24 pm »
Wow haha that's cool.

What I'm saying is pure water has a resistance of 18Mohms per cm. Water with ionic compounds has a resistance dependent on the amount but it usually takes less than 2 volts just like in standard electrolysis. Although we are no trying to push current, the resistance shows us how many ions we can potential move with an applied voltage. Pure water always has ions in it, but the voltage necessary to ionize pure h2O is pretty crazy; At least in any significant way. Stans equipment certainly isn't capable of producing such voltages.

Stan always talks about natural water, natural water already has plenty of ionic compounds broken down in it.
An example for this whole thing would be applying 12 volts to a cell with tap water and also to a cell with deionized water. We would see a lot more hydtogen from the tap water. Now if we restrict the amp flow with vic's, in both cases production either stops or is limited. But, a huge amount of ions have been polarized in the tap water cell in comparison to the deionized water cell.

Sorry for the long reply, sometimes I feel like I'm not very good at explaining stuff so I tried to make my thoughts clear.
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« Reply #22 on: December 29, 2012, 16:30:34 pm »
I wonder what would happen if we put this 2000V super cell on a WFC.

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« Reply #23 on: December 31, 2012, 06:32:09 am »
There are a couple things I would like to add to this thread.
1)  As I'm sure most of you know that if you over charge the coils, they will pull more current. A coil operates the opposite way a of a capacitor, where as while charging a capacitor the current starts off high and then current drops as a capacitor reaches 5 Time Constants. An inductor starts off with low current and the current rises and peaks as you reach 5 Time Constants. So you don't want to over charge the coils or you will get high currents. You want to stop charging the coils before it reaches 5TC.

2)  As I stated in a previous thread, I have seen a strange phenomenon that I can only explain as "Parallel Resonance" occurring within a series circuit. This was done using the 8XA Circuit and high inductance bifilar coils. The coils were not equal, the L1 coil had a higher inductance than the L2 coil. The L1 coil was around 3.4H and the L2 coil was around 2.8H. When I connected the 8XA Circuit to the coil and increased the variac to around 50VDC, I would only get a voltage input reading up to 12VDC max! The voltage across the cell would read over 1,000V. The water would hold this charge as long as the input power was being supplied. The current would max out at 55mA while in resonance! My only explanation for this is that a parallel resonance was taking place between the two unequal coils! In Parallel Resonance, the coils will have a very high impedance and restrict the current to a certain level. I even demonstrated this to my electronics professor and he didn't understand what was taking place. Has anyone else tested and seen this take place???