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Electrolysis => Fuel Cells => Tube Cells => Topic started by: Fiditti on August 29, 2008, 23:02:57 pm

Title: Hydro said he might be ready to throw the alternator away. "QUERY"
Post by: Login to see usernames on August 29, 2008, 23:02:57 pm
Some time back, say about a month ago, Hydrocars said that he was just about to the point of saying we didn't need the special alternator.  He said he was almost inclined to think that the tube cells might also not be the way to go.  He also said that he'd come up with an amazing discovery about how to make the cells work a lot more efficiently and in an easier manner.  He said he wasn't ready to share this special secret yet.  It wasn't long after the secret announcement, that we stopped hearing much from Hydrocars.  I for one believe very much in Hydrocars and would like to know more about all three of these topics.  I have contacted Hydrocars but got no response, so he must not want to be bothered at this time.  If any of you know anything new in any of these three subject areas, please share it with the rest of us.  Thanks very much in advance.  I'm working on some special stuff myself, and as soon as I get a proof of concept thing going I'll share it with all of you.  I will give you a hint.  It utilizes steam and is potentially very dangerous.  Happy testing.
Title: Re: Hydro said he might be ready to throw the alternator away. "QUERY"
Post by: Login to see usernames on August 30, 2008, 00:48:36 am
I can’t believe you guys are talking like that about Hydrocars. I have the most respect for him, I have read most of his post in several forums, I have learned a lot from him. As far as I know he was the creator of this Forum and gave it to Stevie. Hydrocars have been experimenting and sharing his findings for over 2 years, and what does he get in return?
Come on guys, give Hydro some respect and credit that he deserves.

By the way, he just got a 1.6 liter engine running 3 minutes on Hydroxy.
Title: Re: Hydro said he might be ready to throw the alternator away. "QUERY"
Post by: Login to see usernames on August 30, 2008, 02:10:12 am
Hydro does that from time to time. Just disappears then shows up with an epiphany.
I'm sure he's watching.
Hope all is well Hydro,

Robert
Title: Re: Hydro said he might be ready to throw the alternator away. "QUERY"
Post by: Login to see usernames on August 30, 2008, 03:37:32 am
Some time back, say about a month ago, Hydrocars said that he was just about to the point of saying we didn't need the special alternator.  He said he was almost inclined to think that the tube cells might also not be the way to go.  He also said that he'd come up with an amazing discovery about how to make the cells work a lot more efficiently and in an easier manner.  He said he wasn't ready to share this special secret yet.  It wasn't long after the secret announcement, that we stopped hearing much from Hydrocars.  I for one believe very much in Hydrocars and would like to know more about all three of these topics.  I have contacted Hydrocars but got no response, so he must not want to be bothered at this time.  If any of you know anything new in any of these three subject areas, please share it with the rest of us.  Thanks very much in advance.  I'm working on some special stuff myself, and as soon as I get a proof of concept thing going I'll share it with all of you.  I will give you a hint.  It utilizes steam and is potentially very dangerous.  Happy testing.

Well people, i also have a new idea to share with you if it works.it can take a while to test because i have other projects that i have to push forward .And remember: "There is no hard och easy knowledge to master...either you have the knowledge or you dont and if you want it...just get it!!!

Keep up the good work, we are going to solve this soon...i promise you all.
Title: Re: Hydro said he might be ready to throw the alternator away. "QUERY"
Post by: Login to see usernames on August 30, 2008, 04:37:54 am
I just heard from Hydro and here is what he has to say:

The Alternator is a Transformer which contains a primary and secondary winding, where the primary is moving and is referred to as a rotor.

The secondary, Stator has 3 separate windings. One Stator winding is magnetized 120 degree's after the other due to the way the rotor is made and the speed it spins.

Normal None Moving Transformers will consume energy on the primary windings when a load is applied to the secondary. However No extra current will be consumed from the primary Rotor when a load is applied at the stator, Instead Power is consumed from Torque, Drive chain.

Stand still Transformers when secondary load is applied will consume more power from the Primary winding, this could lead to smoking the primary winding if the load is to great. Load to the Secondary stator will not result in power consumed from the primary rotor, but will result in more needed torque. You can see how the two operate differently. The alternator can be 120 degrees out of phase, unlike the normal 180 degree out of phase single core transformer; ferrite is not needed for a core.

The Electron Extraction Circuit is right before your eye's. The charging of the cell from the stator and discharging of the fuel cell onto the rotor "oscillates" - "resonates" - Extracting electrons. The current the fuel cell can produce can be brutal, you can get more voltage and currents from a fuel cell than a normal car sized 12 volt battery can offer. Generating electricity from running hydrogen threw a fuel cell is a current and past way of electrical generation, its nothing new. However extracting electricity from the fuel cell when Producing hydroxy the technology is new and not understood to these new Workgroups. HHO can not be ran threw what i now referred to as an older Fuel cell to generate electricity. However the oxygen and hydrogen must be separated for those types of fuel cells to operate, they use membranes, the oxygen is not needed.

The harmonics from the alternator just meant you hit 120, the square waves is another story. Many alternator setups has been claimed, credited, and taken, however no one knows what’s going on. It is hear you will learn the truth, so you decide who knows what, and who is the "Monkey". The square waves from a transformer is usually impossible, but since the electrons is being extracted from the Gas, it is being used to power the "Rotor" without the use of any external power exiting the rotor. 3450 Rpm's is what it takes to get this effect; this is when the alternator resonates with itself. The fuel cell is just and add-on that resonates with the alternator, and does produce electron flow to and from the alternator oscillating. The gas is supercharged with 120 deg out of phase DC and then the electrons are Brutally extracted, the cycle repeats. This is why it is possible to run as little as 6 fuel cells on a 3/4th HP driver motor. Some alternators is junk right from the start, as the rotor and stator must be the right size. I find the "DELPHI Automotive Systems" alternator to work better than any alternator I’ve ever used, it is a Delta. Failure to regulate smoothly in self loop is related to the type of alternator you have. Gas production is Much greater, unbeatable by any other power source with tubes. However Clean hands fail to understand this, and I am outnumbered by the ones that lack. The hydrogen gas that’s emitted off the tubes lacks electrons, they was consumed by the rotor during resonance, this now allows further gas alternation due to the mixing electrons, not yet published.

Future attempts to extract electrons, Consume, Dislodge, Damage will now be conducted by the readers of this page, This release of information is a test to see if you deserve more. I have deleted my account at top secret forums and shied away from all forums, There is allot going around on the forums i just do not stand for. Like busting water with the resonate freq of water, that’s child talk and you should be spanked, assuming you're an adult. I am a man of 1, I care not what you think of me and my work, I have learned that the internet is full of thief’s, and very disrespectful people. Therefore when this nation Straightens up and acts adult like, i may return. Until then, forget it. When you see someone make a finding, Credit them for it as they deserve it. Do not take their credit, and if you see someone taking someone else’s credit, be a man, stand up and say hey, your a liar so and so came up with that. I'm not the only one disappointed here. Many is going silent.

A SPDT switched should be used to both allow current to flow into the fuel cell and direct current out and away from the fuel cell., First you supercharge the cell "180 degree out of phase" also works well, then you switch the SPDT switch to discharge the electrons from the cell to your desired load gaining back electricity, therefore all or most of the input amount the cell consumed is now gotten back. As I mentioned Extracting electricity from The hydrogen fuel cell is unlike the way you would extract it from the to date fuel cells. This way of Electron Extraction is NEW and not thought of. Therefore I bring this technology to you to see how you act upon it.

The future Fuel cells is Partly Stevies Ideal, and partly my ideal, however he has a secret one of his own. It's much more efficient and much more can be done with it. At this time I do not wish to Publish due to the lack of respect I have been shown, People like dankie should be immediately removed from these forums as I will not hang around any group that supports his type as I have explained to murray. If that’s the way this technology ends up, then I feel many will not colt with it. It should be understood my obsession with this technology and man hours as well as other people’s time invested.

What you have learned here today is how to extract electrons from a fuel cell, Now you will probably see it posted all over the internet much like you did with the ionization etc,,,. Strange how all that stuff popped up isn't it..

Since i feel i am on a streak, open up the tech brief, type Ctrl + F... type in Liter, Read.

What I published Wasn't much, although to you it may be.

Br, H


Title: Re: Hydro said he might be ready to throw the alternator away. "QUERY"
Post by: Login to see usernames on August 30, 2008, 05:39:20 am
I read all the posts Hydrocars made and none make sense to me , i never felt he truely understood the concept and thats why he dissapeared , he added more confusion than good . The resonance or harmonics if you will can only be the freq that allows RLC to attain max voltage or a multiple of the larmor frequency h2o in order to accelerate the electron spin more effectively , its nothing more , it cant be nothing more . But all that is irrelevant if you simply have too much voltage or  photon energy , but you see, thats what hydrocars cant do , he cant sit down and seriously think through something without going through all his $ chasing around any possible idea because HE IS SO DEDICATED .Of course the power source is irrelevant here it would be obvious to anybody to figure out that the reason why stan used an alternator is because thats whats in a car , an alternator , you can use a battery too just look at dingel , and to think the ``harmonics``  of your alternator has a role here is simply wild speculation .

So the gas coming out of the water is already ionized HH0 ! ,thats REALLY surprising to me , even meyers had had to process the gas to ionize em after the fact .

Title: Re: Hydro said he might be ready to throw the alternator away. "QUERY"
Post by: Login to see usernames on August 30, 2008, 07:25:17 am
People like dankie should be immediately removed from these forums as I will not hang around any group that supports his type as I have explained to murray. If that’s the way this technology ends up, then I feel many will not colt with it. It should be understood my obsession with this technology and man hours as well as other people’s time invested....

Exactly how I feel....Maybe it's his job to cause problems and make everyone disbelieve the hard work of others? After all it is the internet, you never know who your talking to....And don't doubt for a minute there aren't people hired to dicredit and cause disbelief of the work of others...When something big is put up on a site you can bet that site will get attacked with viruses to the point where it will completly shut down.

Personally I would never put any real information/ findings on the web due to one fact

 -As soon as you do it will be stolen and patented.....

There's a million middle class idiots that think they can make money here, and the'll do anything to get it!!!

I would advise all of you to quietly figure things out on your own....And if you want to make it public, good luck with that!

Title: Re: Hydro said he might be ready to throw the alternator away. "QUERY"
Post by: Login to see usernames on August 30, 2008, 07:57:50 am
Thanks hydrocars! My respect to you. I always wondered why every time Stan standing next to a car engine the alternator was big like an truck...well...now i know. Thanks Hydrocars.
Title: Re: Hydro said he might be ready to throw the alternator away. "QUERY"
Post by: Login to see usernames on August 30, 2008, 08:21:58 am
Well i dont really know what this post was about lol , the alternator is scrapped or its groundbreaking lol wich one is it

both are pretty far apart , im confused now , im always confused reading forums , i just stick to the bible , i sure will read the ``Liter`` when i get home to a high speed connection . I kinda get the idea of what might happen but you would need to seriously weaken the bond to ``extract`` the electrons and consume them , maybe you are doing that i dont know plz post more about your coils then. w/e it is the process itself is caused by  pulsed opposite electrical fields and what you do with the stray electrons is up to your imagination ofc .

Steam , what about steam , molecules are farther apart from eachother and dont form complex geometrical clusters that add their charges and makes harder to break apart into hho , but you need energy to make that steam unless you know how some other secret way, then you need some more energy to get that electric field going after that  , and you need that secret steam making method , so we are still left with a big qiestion mark

I always speak my mind and back it with knowledge  , i dont deviate from the patent in wild speculation , maybe if hydro posted his real intelligence instead of keeping all the gooshy stuff i might not have dissed so bad , i`m sorry was so unfriendly
Title: Re: Hydro said he might be ready to throw the alternator away. "QUERY"
Post by: Login to see usernames on August 30, 2008, 08:33:25 am
Maybe you should read Job chapter 12 verses 12 and 13, http://basicenglishbible.com/job/12.htm
Title: Re: Hydro said he might be ready to throw the alternator away. "QUERY"
Post by: Login to see usernames on August 30, 2008, 09:14:11 am
i`m sorry was so unfriendly

I'm glad to see you become open, I have faith that you will think twice before you post something like that again. I believe your learning the in's and out of life.  "you got to be nice to others" ;)

Be good, make friends here and go far. From now on take my advice and do not post negative stuff in the manner in which you posted it. I do not look down on you just yet, the best always make the worst mistakes, they become men of knowledge. Lets see if you take that road, or if you take the other one.

The ones that make the most mistakes is the ones that owns knowledge, this i know as you learn from your mistakes.  I look for a change in your personality.
Title: Re: Hydro said he might be ready to throw the alternator away. "QUERY"
Post by: Login to see usernames on August 30, 2008, 10:47:21 am
Dear Members,

1. I do NOT like people talking bad about other people. We all do our best to solve the water riddle. Hydrocars is one of them.
    I know him better then anybody else in the whole world, so i can assure you that he always has been honest.
2. His way of telling things and his way of developing maybe different then some of  you outthere but that is not a reason to talk bad
    about   him.
3. I truelly do not know anybody else so dedicated and hard working on this technology then Hydrocars. He has been an inspiration to
    many outthere.
4. Hydrocars and I started this forum and we filled it with our projects and theorys. We wanted to get people here that were builders.
    Meaning, learn by doing!
5. I know for sure we provided many with costly information. Payd from our own ockets and learned it the hard way of doing!

There are some of you asking where Hydrocars is....Well, he is still reading here.

Dankie, i asked you several times by pm to change your attitude.
I appriciate your technicals views and i was hoping that you could change yr attitude a bit to keep the peace.
I told you that i like people talking from their hart, but what you wrote here last days, is also too much for me.
I write this here, so all members can read this. Dankie is not welcome anymore on this forum and will be removed.

br
Steve


Title: Re: Hydro said he might be ready to throw the alternator away. "QUERY"
Post by: Login to see usernames on August 31, 2008, 03:08:11 am
Dear Members,

1. I do NOT like people talking bad about other people. We all do our best to solve the water riddle. Hydrocars is one of them.
    I know him better then anybody else in the whole world, so i can assure you that he always has been honest.
2. His way of telling things and his way of developing maybe different then some of  you outthere but that is not a reason to talk bad
    about   him.
3. I truelly do not know anybody else so dedicated and hard working on this technology then Hydrocars. He has been an inspiration to
    many outthere.
4. Hydrocars and I started this forum and we filled it with our projects and theorys. We wanted to get people here that were builders.
    Meaning, learn by doing!
5. I know for sure we provided many with costly information. Payd from our own ockets and learned it the hard way of doing!

There are some of you asking where Hydrocars is....Well, he is still reading here.

Dankie, i asked you several times by pm to change your attitude.
I appriciate your technicals views and i was hoping that you could change yr attitude a bit to keep the peace.
I told you that i like people talking from their hart, but what you wrote here last days, is also too much for me.
I write this here, so all members can read this. Dankie is not welcome anymore on this forum and will be removed.

br
Steve




This forum is for exchange ideas about extract energy from water and we should leave personal emotional outbursts, political discussions and personal needs of being significance out of it. So i think its good to remove people that focus on their personal emotional issues and not the technology PLEASE PEOPLE!!!  FOCUS ON WFC/WFI TECHNOLOGY.

Regards,
Hydropower
Title: Re: Hydro said he might be ready to throw the alternator away. "QUERY"
Post by: Login to see usernames on August 31, 2008, 07:57:55 am
Hi H20power!
I agree with you 100%. I really think you have a warm and life supporting soul. You are great for humanity.I been studying human behavoir for 13 years, economy, politics (its the simplest form of thinking to understand), medicine and computer science....I understand exactly how the wealthy thinks and there is no area in economy, politics,

I understand and agree with your way of thinking. I just want us to speed up the process to solve this wfc problem. To do this efficient we have to separate the different areas. And it is very important to inform other people. It is great to have political threads. I just dont want to see anybody put in to jail or targeted by whealthy families or killed(by accident, poison etc). Once they put focus on this site they just close it and put anybody in to jail if the want to. People who we throw out from here may get want to get even and put this site in focus for enemies of the people(you know who). Inform of politcal knowledge but dont mention name, nationalities or countrys. We can inform people about everything with models without mention names. If they want names we can(like you already did) give them links to sites with movies and documents.

If we cooporate in every aspect of wfc we will reach our goal fast. Like it is now everybody make their own experiments. It is better to get organised to speed things up. Here is the model of what i think we should do:
1. Gather a group of people to be involved in the "Solution team"
2. Everybody contribute with their own speciality. - you have great wfc knowledge and is practically skilled, I am skilled in modeling and make complex structures simple, somebody can find hardware resources etc.
3. we decide which wfc/wfi model to build
4. we gather all information we have
5. simplify, breakdown all problems in to small specific problems
6. problems is then sent to experts in that field(i can get some people for that)
7. solution is send to "our" lab for evaluation in form of test
8. solution from labtest is presented and posted in forum(or we can wait until the wfc is working and the present the wfc)
9. next problem....(step 5)

In short...everybody saves money(which is time) and time. if 100 peoples do same experiment that 1 do its soooo waste of manhours and money(everybody buy and build their own prototype that have to be rebulid serveral times).

This is how rich people work and thats why they are rich...they work in team and hire experts in differnt areas. Workers want to do everything themselves bescause the want to feel significance(which is a human need) and thats why they are ordinary workers.

If we create 2 labs as an example...everybody in the team contribute with money so all equipment needed is bought to the lab. everybody in the team spend time on research on specific problem to be solved. Example: We have a question about electronics...I ask my contact who works with electronics in a research lab (he doesnt need to know about the wfc, only about the specific problem)

Hydropower

4.
Title: Re: Hydro said he might be ready to throw the alternator away. "QUERY"
Post by: Login to see usernames on August 31, 2008, 10:43:40 am
That's a great idea, as an archietech I am well versed in design theory and design solutions. Most of my wfc's are all ready to go, built in the computer world for study to make sure everything works as intended. Then, for me, it off too the machine shop to have them built, my weakness, then I test in the real world taking notes and everything. I used to make video's but the Ravi think show''d me that there are people looking at us.  If I can just get these two prototypes built I can test my Lord Kelvin designs. Sometimes I am tempted to put the whole design on this site to see what happens. I think I might with the part tube/cone cell I have in the works, but I have to add more parts so people can follow them easy, for I leave some of the design in my mind. Tell me if you think this is a good idea hydropower, Stevie, Spike, and others?

h2opower.

Well,

1. I can support any internet based lab or research centre idea. Completely secured with tokens and loginnames and paswords....
    So we can have a closed info circuit for those who wanna join in the development cycle.
2. The problem with things like this is that most of us do not know each other in person.
     This makes 1 issue to a big problem. The issue of trust.

We do not know the agenda's of the people. Most of the people are in for just 1 thing........ dollars, euro's, turtlebucks,
And we all know how people react when money is involved, do we.....

If any of you have a idea on how to do this, please let me know.

br
Steve
Title: Re: Hydro said he might be ready to throw the alternator away. "QUERY"
Post by: Login to see usernames on August 31, 2008, 11:57:35 am
That's a great idea, as an archietech I am well versed in design theory and design solutions. Most of my wfc's are all ready to go, built in the computer world for study to make sure everything works as intended. Then, for me, it off too the machine shop to have them built, my weakness, then I test in the real world taking notes and everything. I used to make video's but the Ravi think show''d me that there are people looking at us.  If I can just get these two prototypes built I can test my Lord Kelvin designs. Sometimes I am tempted to put the whole design on this site to see what happens. I think I might with the part tube/cone cell I have in the works, but I have to add more parts so people can follow them easy, for I leave some of the design in my mind. Tell me if you think this is a good idea hydropower, Stevie, Spike, and others?

h2opower.

Well,

1. I can support any internet based lab or research centre idea. Completely secured with tokens and loginnames and paswords....
    So we can have a closed info circuit for those who wanna join in the development cycle.
2. The problem with things like this is that most of us do not know each other in person.
     This makes 1 issue to a big problem. The issue of trust.

We do not know the agenda's of the people. Most of the people are in for just 1 thing........ dollars, euro's, turtlebucks,
And we all know how people react when money is involved, do we.....

If any of you have a idea on how to do this, please let me know.

br
Steve

I  understand completely the trust issue. Tell me what your worst case scenario is. What is you afraid of is going to happen? I list all of the scenarios that could happen(check below).

1. We work in a team. Somebody in the team is here for money. When the working wfc is ready he take it and make money. The rest of the team dont make money. Result = Everybody have the wfc drawings. Somebody make money on the wfc and the rest dont. Everybody else uses wfc to their own purpose.
2. We work in a team. Nobody is here for the money. When the drawings is ready nobody makes money. Result = Everybody have wfc drawings. Nobody makes money. Everybody uses wfc for their own purpose.
3. We work in a team. Everybody is here for the money. When the working wfc is ready everybody makes money. Result = Everybody have wfc drawings and everybody makes money.

The big picture: We work in a team = everything goes faster - everyone in the world will have wfc eventually. We dont work in a team = everything goes slower - everyone in the world will have wfc eventually.

If somebody sells it...I say: buy one wfc and make a copy of it...so i cant see any problem with anything if the aim is to give the wfc to the world. If everbody sits on the wfc its going to be like Dingel. Says he is doing it for the humanity but wont share the drawings and he has sitting on that drawings in about 40 years. I dont think it is a great strategy if you want to stop the oil empire because one dies with the secret and the empire continues.

There are only 4 goals that anybody can have with deveolpment of wfc
1. Take wfc and make money
2. Take wfc and share with rest of the world
3. Take wfc and use all benefits for oneself
4. Take wfc and show rest of the world that one made this invention

Hydropower
Title: Re: Hydro said he might be ready to throw the alternator away. "QUERY"
Post by: Login to see usernames on August 31, 2008, 16:55:55 pm
Umm....We already discussed how to get steam without any extra energy expense. I guess Dankie came in after the posts about vaccuum and it's effect on the boiling point of water? And the mention of running the steam through sulfuric acid to remove the oxygen? And...well, whatever, don't pay attention to him/her/it. It's all just speculation until someone tries things and disproves them. As for Hydro, I came here because of him and even though he seems wishy-washy at times, he has tons more time and effort in this than most of us do. Keep it up Hydro!
Title: Re: Hydro said he might be ready to throw the alternator away. "QUERY"
Post by: Login to see usernames on August 31, 2008, 22:59:33 pm
I must say that you are a man of honour and courage h2opower. When comes to trust everbody can trust that there is people who will use this information for right and wrong things. There will always bee humans who do bad and good things that is nothing we in this forum can change before worlds energy "crisis" hit us. We have to solve that one too by raise our children with knowledge to influence other people with good thinking.

Give me the exact description of your Dingel problems(just give the information about the problem). I can use some of my contacts to solve that if it possible for them(they will not know that it is a wfc until you release the whole dingel system).

Take care meanwhile,
Hydropower
Title: Re: Hydro said he might be ready to throw the alternator away. "QUERY"
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 02, 2008, 07:54:16 am
hey everyone,

the team idea seems to be a valid one, although ma bee a little difficult to secure due to some  already mentioned issues.

as i mentioned quite a while ago, there is more than one way to skin a cat! so i am telling u this now, there is definitely more than one way to do this thing! i am confident that there are many ways to do it. so when someone says that whatever way doesn't work, try this, DO NOT DISCOUNT  what that person is doing, OR the person he is smashing. all being true, they BOTH probably are accurate in a lot of what they are saying! learn from all suggested ideas instead of running in circles trying to find the "right" one. they, as you will eventually see,  will all probably contribute to the end cause.

as far as resonance, inductance, and capacitance, my father is working on this project with me and he suggested this idea; if a pendulum is swinging back and forth and you time when you push it from both sides perfectly to keep it going, think of how efficient   and how little energy you will use to do so.

now, do the same thing with the pendulum but time it all wrong, what happens?? there is not too much other than an exact timing,when the pendulum will swing at its most efficient state. this is exactly   what the capacitance and the inductance should be doing!...wright??
"inductance" pushes one way and the "capacitance" pushes the other. just have to time them wright. and make sure one is not stronger that the other!! so the capacitance and the inductance should be the same.

oh well blah, blah , blah... any other thoughts anyone?

don't get discouraged h2o, i am with ya all the way in what ever the truth leads us to, let me know if there is anything i can do to assist!
let me know what is goin on with ur machine guy,  i might have one that can do the job for ya.

crea...
Title: Re: Hydro said he might be ready to throw the alternator away. "QUERY"
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 05, 2008, 11:46:28 am
Hi Hydrocars, I like see a lot of people being rude more and more everywhere,  People like dankie should be immediately removed from these forums as I will not hang around any group that supports his type as I have explained to murray. If that’s the way this technology ends up, then I feel many will not colt with it. It should be understood my obsession with this technology and man hours as well as other people’s time invested. I agree >:(

I guess people don't understand all the hours people like us put into this technology, or maybe it's the British :P. Anyway its good to hear from you again and to see your making progress, it seems I have been stopped for awhile in that I can't get any of my cells built. I think I have solved the technology and now I can't test too see if everything finally comes together, but I shared what I know so that others can try it if they want. That way if I do end up dead my work will still be on some sites for people to try out. That way at the end of the day I can say, "I did my part to aid humanity kicking the oil addiction."

Take care and enjoy the times we have for it is going to get much worst in our very near future as the dollar finally goes belly up towards the end of this year and into the next. This great depression is really going to be bad, for it will be hitting a lot of different countries, it will be complete with food shortages and everything, so enjoy these good times bro :D.

I would like to offer you and fiditti this link to read up on. Dont let it go to your head. When all is understood all is possible. Just because its possible doesn't make it overunity, the way i look at it, If you can explain it then its not overunity, but really it is, but its not. In other words you should not CLAIM OVERUNITY DEVICES, Better yet, you should Explain them.

I would also like to say that stevie and i will be working on a new form of  EEC circuit, this circuit will be Called, Inspired by " Stanley A. Meyers " as it will work much like his alternator setup.

There is So much information in this world , You have to learn to look in all the right Places. When you see what your up against you may very well cry,, But the end results is amazing. When you start putting the little pieces together you will start to see much, if not even more of this Magical technology has been hidden from you for YEARS, its nothing new, but to the public is its brand new.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_maser

Now, if that didn't kick your ass then http://science.howstuffworks.com/laser1.htm There is hundreds of simple little things i could point out, i could post pages of links but it would be a mess. The only way you will learn what needs to be done is if you Have the heart to research, when you read a page you should question what you do not know about what you've read, research what you question, eventually you will end up in a good place.