### Author Topic: My Thoughts on how Meyer split water  (Read 62288 times)

0 Members and 2 Guests are viewing this topic.

• Sr. member
• Posts: 436
##### Re: My Thoughts on how Meyer split water
« Reply #72 on: July 27, 2011, 12:21:41 pm »
@Tony,
What frequency are you going for?

Keely:
"In molecular dissociation one fork of 620 is used, setting the chords on the first octave.
Go for resonance frequency 620Hz and ratio 2^(1/12) = 656.8Hz; C=52.141nF; L1=1263.5mH and L2=1125.7mH

What is the bandwidth for molecular dissociation (620Hz)

Puharich calculated 657.4Hz and called it "beat" effect. I assume it depends on what type of water is used.

Also can you elaborate how the AM signal is generated for the first resonance (PULSE and GATE).
Is the gate frequency adjusted on 3sec time that corresponds to the nuclear spin relaxation time, tau/sec, of the water?

Br,
Webmug

• Member
• Posts: 223
##### Re: My Thoughts on how Meyer split water
« Reply #73 on: July 27, 2011, 15:06:08 pm »
I`m confused here! how did you guys came up with the 67n 60n 52n. They all seem to be very high values for the water capacitor we are using. Are you assuming this value for only one 3inch tube set?

[/size]hm

• Moderator
• Sr. member
• Posts: 460
##### Re: My Thoughts on how Meyer split water
« Reply #74 on: July 27, 2011, 15:28:39 pm »
@Tony,
What frequency are you going for?

Keely:
"In molecular dissociation one fork of 620 is used, setting the chords on the first octave.
Go for resonance frequency 620Hz and ratio 2^(1/12) = 656.8Hz; C=52.141nF; L1=1263.5mH and L2=1125.7mH

What is the bandwidth for molecular dissociation (620Hz)

Puharich calculated 657.4Hz and called it "beat" effect. I assume it depends on what type of water is used.

Also can you elaborate how the AM signal is generated for the first resonance (PULSE and GATE).
Is the gate frequency adjusted on 3sec time that corresponds to the nuclear spin relaxation time, tau/sec, of the water?

Br,
Webmug

Yea the AM signal is also known as a "Beat" effect. http://www.walter-fendt.de/ph14e/beats.htm  Yea I think the gate is to be adjusted to the NMR of water as Puharich and Meyer both say 0.5 Hz. You can think of these AM signals acting as particle wave dualities.

• Moderator
• Sr. member
• Posts: 460
##### Re: My Thoughts on how Meyer split water
« Reply #75 on: July 27, 2011, 15:33:36 pm »
I`m confused here! how did you guys came up with the 67n 60n 52n. They all seem to be very high values for the water capacitor we are using. Are you assuming this value for only one 3inch tube set?

hm

The calculated value for the cell will be much different from the actual measured value. Like for Stan's resonant cavity, the tubes calculated capacitance is around 877pF, but the measured value for a single tube with distilled water is 670nF. Since Meyer had 10 tubes wired in series you will have a capacitance of around 67nF, but you can get the value lower by circulating the water through the tubes.

• Sr. member
• Posts: 436
##### Re: My Thoughts on how Meyer split water
« Reply #76 on: July 27, 2011, 16:27:33 pm »
I`m confused here! how did you guys came up with the 67n 60n 52n. They all seem to be very high values for the water capacitor we are using. Are you assuming this value for only one 3inch tube set?

hm

The calculated value for the cell will be much different from the actual measured value. Like for Stan's resonant cavity, the tubes calculated capacitance is around 877pF, but the measured value for a single tube with distilled water is 670nF. Since Meyer had 10 tubes wired in series you will have a capacitance of around 67nF, but you can get the value lower by circulating the water through the tubes.

Does it have the right frequency if we use one cell or do we need 10 to match the frequency?
Why did SM build all the 11 VIC coils and circuits if he used 1 VIC and circuit and 10 wfc cells in series?

Big question is how to correctly measure and calculate this capacitance of the cell.

If we look for measurements we see in the table different measurement frequencies at 100Hz,120Hz,1kHz and 10kHz and the capacitance.
We notice in air (empty) that the cell has almost constant capacitance of 21pF.

Now if we go for tap water we see on low frequency higher capacitance and high frequency lower capacitance, so not constant!
The capacitance is changing when the frequency is changing.  When we want 600Hz for resonance there is a capacitance value at this frequency and it depends on the used water-type and cell construction.

Can we make a function (guessing; exponential) for capacitance values and frequency for calculations?

Br,
Webmug

• Sr. member
• Posts: 349
##### Re: My Thoughts on how Meyer split water
« Reply #77 on: July 27, 2011, 17:29:36 pm »
would it be possible to put 9 high voltage caps in series with the water cap? And even if we use a single cell everything should still work correctly according to you theory? it would just resonate at a lower frequency?
and for the capacitance, Tony are you saying the measured capacitance is correct and the calculated cap is wrong? Maybe someone has the ability to measure capacitance at any frequency? we could put together a spreadsheet or we could do what webmug suggests

• Sr. member
• Posts: 436
##### Re: My Thoughts on how Meyer split water
« Reply #78 on: July 27, 2011, 21:21:40 pm »
Yes webmug, this is the reason for the train of impulses. Each pulse adds to the force field... And when the field collapses particle impact generate energy. The frequency is directly related to the voltage.
Does this AM also work to make the "steam resonator" but on different frequency as the "resonant wfc"?
As we shake the molecule on a different frequency and not pump it up too much, it heats up.

Br,
Webmug