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Re: Important information
« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2009, 19:23:28 pm »
it actually corkscrews around the wire while spinning. These
two spinning corkscrews of flux..
let me add something: the flux between the wires of a cylindrical coil cancels out and the magnetic field left looks like this, no corkscrews anymore:
http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Datei:Solenoid.svg&filetimestamp=20061113180033


if i use the url tag my post will delete itself by the way stevie :(

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Re: Important information
« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2009, 20:36:43 pm »
this clearly says the windings are OPPOSED....

"Let us imagine the flow through the "choke"...
Since the B-flow flows in one direction...when it interacts in the
choke, it flowing in one direction on the + side...and in the opposite
direction on the - side. The B-Flow is quite simplified in that
drawing, it actually corkscrews around the wire while spinning. These
two spinning corkscrews of flux meet in the bifilar coil on the iron
core...this concentrates both fluxes into the core and essentially
cancels the B-Flow...which then resists the flow of amperage.
The voltage potentials are still there pulling on them."

exactly as demartin has said and exactly as i have seen.

you can't even comprehend the things you read.

put your self on a list of total confusion......oh yeah and i forgot how dynodon, 2curiouswfc, gotoluc, and gmeast were on a list......ALL PEOPLE WHO ARE ACTUALLY DOING SOMETHING.



The crux_wfc connection is wrong , this one shown in this picture here is wrong .

Let this be clear , I wasnt the one saying it was hooked up like this if I remember correctly , you were defending this like a fukin inquisitor .

Now you know ...

On this site there will be no dogma , any egos will get crushed .

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Re: Important information
« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2009, 22:26:05 pm »
This info is good ... mmmm , delicious perfect lasagna .... mmmmm


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Re: Important information
« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2009, 00:49:40 am »
@All
The connection is of little importance...no matter what, you wind it the same way. Two wires at the same time...just have it terminate at some posts (like the VIC pic)...after that, you can test which way we want to go in (either opposite sides...or same side) simple testing will show u. So calm down!



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@Haithar
http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Datei:Solenoid.svg&filetimestamp=20061113180033

That is the resultant flow of the wires in "series"...it's only 2D...In real life it looks like a double sided vortex.

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Re: Important information
« Reply #13 on: May 16, 2009, 07:27:31 am »

"Some bifilars have adjacent coils in which the convolutions are arranged so that the potential difference is magnified (i.e., the current flows in same parallel direction). The magnetic field created by one winding is multiplied with that created by the other, resulting in a greater net magnetic field. Others are wound so that the current flows in opposite directions. The magnetic field created by one winding is therefore equal and opposite to that created by the other, resulting in a net magnetic field of zero (i.e., neutralizing any negative effects in the coil). In electrical terms, this means that the self-inductance of the coil is zero."

"An early example of the bifilar coil can be seen in Nikola Tesla's United States patent 512,340 of 1894. Tesla explains that in some applications (which he does not specify) the self-inductance of a conventional coil is undesired and has to be neutralised by adding external capacitors. The bifilar coil in this configuration has increased self-capacitance, thereby saving the cost of the capacitors. It is notable that this is not the kind of bifilar winding used in non-inductive wirewound resistors where the windings are wired anti-series to null out self-inductance."
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Re: Important information
« Reply #14 on: May 16, 2009, 11:11:09 am »
Answer of this person:

Yes Dankie that is the flux in which I speak.
Ideally you would read zero...but I doubt that it could be that
perfect. Let me clarify something...the amperage is not being consumed
at all. The fluxes are traveling in opposite directions, with opposite
spins. See, any time current (amperage) flows on a wire it creates
these "Eddy" currents we call flux. The current flow is directly
related to the flux intensity. If you lower the amperage the flux will
also fall in a linear fashion....So, inversely...if we stop the flux
flow we also stop the current flow....the current is essentially
"choked" out...hence the name choke coil ;)
 

As for the "Bleeding Off"....this is key you get this.
 
+ and - are equal and opposite....If we get a true capacitor action in
the WFC...when we charge it up we will have + and - standing voltage
even after the power is turned off. In ALL capacitors...the insulator
is charged as well as the plates!
So in a water capacitor....the water itself will take on a charge and
elongate accordingly.
The only thing holding water together are 2 shared electrons between
the H and O...so it should be obvious that we are interested in
manipulating the -electrons.
 
The EEC works like this...
 
Voltage is applied and the water capacitor is charged to maximum. The
input circuit (being isolated) is disconnected, then a separate path
is opened up. In Meyer's pics you can clearly see it's a + electrode
supplied in the water...NOT PART OF THE TUBES/CAPACITOR ;)
So, the on pulses charge the capacitor up...the charge circuit is
disconnected....The WFC should hold a HV charge.....A separate path is
opened ACROSS THE CAPACITOR to bleed off the voltage (like shorting it
out)...in this path is an "Electron consuming device"...or light
bulb....or LEDs.
 
Look here....Bearden gave it to us...w/o telling it was the WFC
          http://spiritofmaat.com/archive/feb2/feb2_bearden.htm


Furthermore, any ferrous(iron based) core is what they call a "flux
path"....this means that all of the flux is concentrated into the
iron. An air core has an even distribution of flux all around it...a
"flux envelope" if you will.
 
 
Let us imagine the flow through the "choke"...
Since the B-flow flows in one direction...when it interacts in the
choke, it flowing in one direction on the + side...and in the opposite
direction on the - side. The B-Flow is quite simplified in that
drawing, it actually corkscrews around the wire while spinning. These
two spinning corkscrews of flux meet in the bifilar coil on the iron
core...this concentrates both fluxes into the core and essentially
cancels the B-Flow...which then resists the flow of amperage.
The voltage potentials are still there pulling on them.
 
I need to find u a document on the flow...I will email it when I find it
 
 

I think this theory on charging the wfc with an insulated + tube/plate is a nice one.
Has anybody made a proof of concept , yet, as far as you know?
That JN is not a proof of concept to me, btw. I had some contact with him and he didnt convince me at all.

Steve


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Re: Important information
« Reply #15 on: May 16, 2009, 13:09:34 pm »
@All
The connection is of little importance...no matter what, you wind it the same way. Two wires at the same time...just have it terminate at some posts (like the VIC pic)...after that, you can test which way we want to go in (either opposite sides...or same side) simple testing will show u. So calm down!



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@Haithar
http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Datei:Solenoid.svg&filetimestamp=20061113180033

That is the resultant flow of the wires in "series"...it's only 2D...In real life it looks like a double sided vortex.
You tried to coat the electrodes with silicon sand, right? What were your findings?