### Author Topic: Rotary Pulse Voltage Frequency Generator Assembly  (Read 164701 times)

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« Reply #160 on: November 14, 2009, 20:40:24 pm »
...the bifilar chokes will cancel due to there mutual inductance...

I don't know why people have such a problem with this!

The RVIC accomplishes the same thing as the VIC.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v81/bigbuba/RVICwindingdirection.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v81/bigbuba/VICCoilOrientation.jpg)

Stainless steel wire is only needed when amp restriction is required above and beyond the Inductance Reactance of the chokes, which would be required at higher voltages, when he goes for 20 kilovolts with the injectors.

If you can't build a copper VIC, don't bother with a SS VIC.

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« Reply #161 on: November 14, 2009, 21:02:12 pm »
This is a recap on how to wind the RVIC. [Updated today, November 14th 2009]

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Unipolar Crossover Pulse-Train Winding Description

Figure out how many turns you can fit in the stator with your chosen gauge of wire, divide this by 6.
Wind your Chokes Bifilar, and you Secondary alone, marking each end of your wires.
Align these two coils (secondary+bifilar chokes), as they will be put in the Stator as a single phase.
You will have 18 "ends" to connect, so make sure you label them damn good.
Insert each phase like "normal", with proper winding direction and "additive" magnetic field orientation.
When the phase is laid in the stator it will make a complete circle, so the start and end of the wires will meet.
Starting from "Negative"
Connect "Negative" to "Bottom Choke Start" for each phase.
Connect "Bottom Choke End" to "Secondary Start" for each phase.... *Possibly* connect "Isolated Ground" here.
Connect "Secondary End" to "Blocking Diode Anode" for each phase.
Connect "Blocking Diode Cathode" to "Top Choke Start" for each phase.
Connect "Top Choke End" to "Isolation Diode Anode" for each phase.
Connect "Isolation Diode Cathode" to "Positive" for each phase.

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« Reply #162 on: November 14, 2009, 21:36:58 pm »
thanks donald for pointing out some good perspectives..   i was reading that kevin west is winding 13 loops  with 50 per loop and stuffing them in..  this means he is putting 50 in a groove and placing another 50 in right on top of that one... he is gettin 100 passes of 27 gauge per groove

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« Reply #163 on: November 14, 2009, 21:46:47 pm »
Yea, it'll take some playing around to figure out how many turns you can get in.

Notice in my winding description above I said divide by 6, this is because you'll have two loops going in each groove, and 3 coils in each loop. which is the fun part of figuring out how much room you have for the wire!

What gauge are you planning on using? I am going to print off the RVIC picture Don posted on page 7 and take it to someone I know who is familiar with wire sizes and stuff, and ask him to guess what gage it is.

Also Kevin is mostly doing Delco Remy's ... so it might be a bit different with the ford/motorcraft stator.

As an example however, 50 turns per loop, 100 turns per groove, you would have about 16-17 turns for each coil for each loop, at 27 gage... nice to know that we would be somewhere in that range, higher number with smaller gage wire...

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« Reply #164 on: November 14, 2009, 23:06:21 pm »
i have a 1600 foot roll of 27 gauge..

do you think that stans output from the rectified phases is pushing somthin like 5 amps.. with the cells hooked parallel it will distribute the 5 amps 10 times leaving each cell around 500 milliamp.

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« Reply #165 on: November 14, 2009, 23:39:16 pm »
I have no idea what the output will be, hence my thoughts on what kind of diodes to try... like i posted in the other topic Stephen Meyer used 1000 volt 6 amp diodes, and I was originally thinking 15 amp 600 volt diodes... It would be great to know what kind of diodes to order, otherwise it's a guessing game!

I would hope that it restricts the amps more than 5 amps...

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« Reply #166 on: November 15, 2009, 00:13:14 am »
lets say that it takes 1 second for a potential of 1 volt to be seen across a cell..  would this mean that if you hit it with 600 volts that it will reach 600 volts in 1/600th of a second???.. would the real time be determined by the dielectric of water.. which can be determinde simply by the time it takes to see 1 volt in frequency appear in the cell?..  by knowing this would you know the frequency at which water is reaching its dielectric breakdown

the water is what creates the dead short condition and you dissapate the load during this condtion in the millamp range due to tuning into the dielectric properties of water.??

all just thoughts..

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« Reply #167 on: November 15, 2009, 00:45:29 am »
I'm not sure, frequency is only important if you are going for resonance, and you can't make a tubular array resonate,

If you want to understand how the amps are restricted in a dead short condition you need to learn about Inductance reactance. In the last few days I did quite a bit of reading on this to understand how the chokes work, and it really makes a lot of sense.

Basically, it comes down to the fact that voltage across and current through an inductor can not change in zero time, so when the chokes are pulsed and the water is in a dead short to the ground there is an inductor in between prevents the current from rushing in. Also if you read about dielectric breakdown you'll learn that when the dielectric fails, all the voltage is transformed into a surge of amps, but this can't happen in the wfc because the chokes prevent this surge of amps. It's all quite simple and brilliant when you start to understand how he is using simple electrical principles to accomplish what he needed. I still have much to learn, but it's coming nicely.

When ever he says "tune into the dielectric properties of water" I think this just means using it as a capacitor in a resonant circuit, and of course it is a liquid dielectric, and he is bringing it to dielectric failure, preventing the amp surge, and allowing the dielectric to recover, as you can read about for liquid/gas dielectrics.  Also when you increase the voltage significantly, this changes the dielectric properties of the water, as he talks about in the Switzerland video, he definitely emphasizes the statement that water is a "dielectric liquid".