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So John will be starting winding my coil soon , 11,6k ohms per choke .

This coil and its core will be considered perfect , nothing else will , but these 2 chokes will be considered be me to be "built upon" , my whole gear or w/e mightchange , these 2 coils wont .

I present you my "chokes"

The Bobbin is a bit too big for these chokes , so that might even change , might have to take out the scraper.

This is gonna be cool !!!!!

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(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/kinesisfilms/johnbifilar.jpg)

this image is 4 sections with bifilar in each.....if you look at the pictures then why not look at this one.

what you are planning on doing completely contradicts this image and the accompanied text.

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Good to see you getting something physical done Dankie, can't wait to see what happens!

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thats not 6-1 , and it makes no difference sicne that connection is in phase , there is no potential difference from each wire since both have currents going to the cell . It changes nothing @  all if wound sequential or bifilar .

I changes something if I were to connect it likle crux_wfc , then it would short out . Since your step up ir rather low 1:14 , for me this is no good since my step-up is 100:1+

So yes , this image does prove that your crux_wfc connection is wrong , thx for confirming .

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that coil winding you say is not figure 6-1 is IN FACT THE WINDING CONFIGURATION FOR FIGURE 6-1.....stop looking at pictures and read.

the image does not prove crux wrong at all.

there are apparently 2 ways to do this or stan would have never put both version in the patent.

i have tried them all now......with no success.

i am still trying though in case i am overlooking something.

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/kinesisfilms/opposing.jpg)

every image and the text proves your windings are incorrect to be seperated as they are.....unless it is connnected as crux's configuration.

why do you run from your problems.

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As expected , this only confirms what demartin was saying .

So in this new light , plz identify the caracteristics of both .

If its connected as crux ,so be it... It must be seperate . If its connected in phase ,no difference whatsoever , its just easier to wind like this .

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well here is something i noticed with the 2 different types of connections.......the 2 opposing ones may might be used if you have 2 seperate chokes on something like a U-I core.....together they might alter the magnetic field the same way as winding both of them together bifilar in phase......

do you understand what im saying?

another thing to take into consideration since you will be winding them seperately is that you are going for the opposing resonant charging choke configuration.......if you think so or not.......now how will you wind the wires?......they cannot both be wound say clockwise......one has to be clockwise nad one counter clockwise......and then you have to consider the magnetic orientation it will create.

i have tried both demartins connections still with no definate results.......i am going to go over it again.....it seems that if you are to use the opposing polarity method the wires cannot be bifilar wrap or they will short when voltage amplitude is increased beyond the enamels levels.

but if you are to use the bifilar spiral wound method the polarities have to be in sync.

just as in demartins photos.

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http://www.ionizationx.com/index.php/topic,1026.msg10409/topicseen.html#msg10409

Yes , I also wonder about the sense of the rotation of the magnetic flux , is coil 10-3b different than coil 10-3a ??

I will test with particles in water and see how they turn , I am not fully understanding this .