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Re: Defining the word "opposite"
« Reply #32 on: February 27, 2009, 21:22:17 pm »
i was thinking that to but then you would think that would enhance electron movement  towards positve plate causing amps .. i would think the oscilation back and forth would enhance polar alignment.. to take on the electrical stress./ voltage.. it cant be considerd a/c i dont think.. isnt ac pushing and pulling from one side... the cell is constantly pushing from the negative side and pulling from the positive side..   



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Re: Defining the word "opposite"
« Reply #33 on: February 27, 2009, 22:53:01 pm »
see now here is how i see it

input:

+B2000v/-B2000v..........................+B2000v/-B2000v.............................+B2000v/-B2000v...........................+B2000v/-B2000v

and since it is a capacitor this is what happens to it when it charges from a unipolar pulse train.

across the cell:

+B250v/-B250v..........................+B500v/-B500v................................+B1000v/-B1000v........................+B2000v/-B2000v

and at resonance it pushes it even farther.

FIGURE 10-5 IN THE TECH BRIEF.....is what i am talking about above.
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Re: Defining the word "opposite"
« Reply #34 on: February 27, 2009, 23:23:21 pm »
right but think about it..that pulse is  only giving it static voltage.... i think the dynamic pulse creates the voltage wave guide... he says the stem resonator works in a pumping action.. now wouldnt it be nice to have both combined.. also realize how steam is made.. water going into higher energy state/ expanding.. it would only help the high voltage pulse seperate water.. stan says that the fuel cell works in a pumping action to in one of his videos... i. im working on getting a video on to try to explain by pointing out things of interest.

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Re: Defining the word "opposite"
« Reply #35 on: February 28, 2009, 02:28:00 am »
outlaw.....i have never looked into using the alternator method along with the VIC....but i was helping a friend who specializes in this method and took a close look at figure 8-11.....and i think i know am beginning to see where your coming from....stan uses the term cross over voltage sync.......you previously said vic switch over circuit.....this is what confused me since that circuit cannot seperate water.....but only heats water up by moving the ENTIRE molecule back nad forth thus creating kinetic energy......this is clearly written in the steam resonator section......and the resonator is in the actual water tank itself.....no where near the electrode plates.......but this cross over voltage sync alternator method is completely different.....

once again check out figure 8-11 of the tech brief.....it seems to be along the lines of what you are talking about.....and i think i am starting to see where you are coming from....sorry i was thinkin with a solid state mindset instead of an alternator mind set.

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Re: Defining the word "opposite"
« Reply #36 on: February 28, 2009, 12:40:37 pm »

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Re: Defining the word "opposite"
« Reply #37 on: March 01, 2009, 00:01:25 am »
it was able to isolate 2 of the phases pulse ..isolated ground is another big hint.. im not 100 sure if my wiring is correct but you can grasp the concepts .. .. what im trying to figure out right now is if the cooper winds are even hooked up.. i think there not. just the stainless steel. t

from zero voltage ground
state (Vo) to a predetermined Voltage Level ( xxx 64 x - 64y - 64z - Vn) on the leading edge of the
Voltage Pulse-Wave (Vpa) and, then, reversing voltage up swing to drop on the trailing edge (Vpb),
completing Voltage-wave (583). The newly established leading voltage edge (Vpa) and trailing
voltage edge (Vpb) being uniform in shape/configuration since both Resonant Charging Chokes
(56/Z2 – 62/Z3) resistive values are the same (Typically 11.6 k? each) ..

"(Vpa)//(Vbp) being uniform in shape/configuration since both Resonant Charging Chokes
(56/Z2 – 62/Z3) resistive values are the same (Typically 11.6 k? each) ."
so we can say that the  stainless choke is for inductance and cap of voltage present  from outter wound secondary choke
but needs to be of equal resistive value so Vpa or Vpa doent jump into the cell to early.. it keeps them in timing with each outher because they have the same flow rate.
(Vp)= voltage pulse wave
notice there is a A and B upswings and trailing edges understand what that means its as if he is makeing  the water into a sine wave  throwing it away from state of equalibrium

+B600v/0v -----------------------  +B600v/-B600v-------------------   +B0v/-B600v
       (Vpa)                                         (V0)                                             (Vpb)

   so since the alternator only spins in one direction  you get a repetative action being gated on and off..like this
(A,0,B,A,0,B,A,0,B,A,0,B) GATE (A,0,B,A,0,B,A,0,B,A,0,B) GATE (A,0,B,A,0,B,A,0,B,A,0,B)
A pulling left, B pulling right, and 0 being +600 and -600= 0

now lets say you take the copper positve choke wire and hooked it to a stainless tube right above your ouput gas.. you can extract electrons into copper chokes and have a led array for burning off the electrons


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Re: Defining the word "opposite"
« Reply #38 on: March 01, 2009, 05:27:38 am »
tell me what you think of this idea.

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Re: Defining the word "opposite"
« Reply #39 on: March 01, 2009, 06:21:00 am »
i don't think tha is correct for the alternator.....seeing that the eec and air ionizer work in congunction the entire time.....not just on one phase.

i still know very little on the vic alternator method so i don't truly have much understanding......but from common sense i don't think the eec process and air ionization only take place 1/3 of the time during the process.


but stick with the figure 8-11 concept it seems you are on the right track.....i think kevin west is starting this soon.