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Re: Starting my project :Tube cell
« Reply #24 on: February 21, 2009, 03:18:38 am »
well sadly stan never ran his water fuel injector with a 2mm gap......nor did he ever use a vic for a 2 mm gap........so if you plan on just making a tube cell to apply your alternator to......then by all means knock yourself out but that is a dead end route......stan even knew that......

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Re: Starting my project :Tube cell
« Reply #25 on: February 21, 2009, 09:38:58 am »
well sadly stan never ran his water fuel injector with a 2mm gap......nor did he ever use a vic for a 2 mm gap........so if you plan on just making a tube cell to apply your alternator to......then by all means knock yourself out but that is a dead end route......stan even knew that......


Hi,


This is just an early phase, so please relax my friend.

I am only replicating his first dune byggy system, and will not use a water fuel injector at all...

I think the reason Stan changed the system later to the water fuel injector system , is that it was a too expensive, and unpractical way to retrofit cars that way.

Only the redi-line generator cost a fortune at that time...

But it worked am i afraid.

So if you believe my idea was to connect an alternator to some tubes in a tank, then i can understand your concern...LOL ;D







 

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Re: Starting my project :Tube cell
« Reply #26 on: February 27, 2009, 10:36:03 am »
Hi ResonanceKing,

Thank you for caring.

I do agree to your math.

I said earlier i would like to try a 2,5 mm gap, however i found on AQUAPULSER.COM about  the "Meyer Excitors" that the spacing between his tubes was 3 millimeters.
I guess i will try 2,0 - 2,5 and 3 mm.

I got a problem, the stainless container i ordered is lost in transport or the company is just bullshitting. I dont know and is trying to find it out.
I need this to make the liter pr minute and the pressure tests, so i hope i get it soon.

When i get it i will personally tig weld a flange with M6 or M8 threads around it for the unbraco srews holding the top lid, mount safety valve and manometer, and one valve for the water input and one smaller valve for the gas output to carburetor.

Yesterday i ordered some electronics for the circuit to pulse my modified alternator.

This and more will take time but i think it will pay off somehow...



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Re: Starting my project :Tube cell
« Reply #28 on: August 04, 2009, 21:01:04 pm »
I said earlier i would like to try a 2,5 mm gap, however i found on AQUAPULSER.COM about  the "Meyer Excitors" that the spacing between his tubes was 3 millimeters.
I guess i will try 2,0 - 2,5 and 3 mm.
Remember that the electric field you'll have is strongly dependant on the gap. if you double the gap you'll have a field that is only 63% the density than you had before. As far as i have understood the whole thing the electric field and possible em-waves are the key of the technology.

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Re: Starting my project :Tube cell
« Reply #29 on: August 04, 2009, 21:44:25 pm »
Thank you for your replay and insight Haithar!
 
I have tested gap sizes sevral times since i typed those words, and i have changed my mind..
 
1,5 mm is now my favourite gap and will be used in the big cell i am planing to build.
 
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Re: Starting my project :Tube cell
« Reply #30 on: August 15, 2009, 21:04:52 pm »
Stan's Demo Cell had a 0.090" Gap, which is 2.286 mm
In the Fuel Gas patent he says 0.0625", which is 1.5875 mm for a 4 inch cell
In the Circuit Patent he says 0.125", which is 3.175 mm for a 3 inch cell (the famous 5 gallons of water split per hour)
In the TB for the injectors he states from 0.060" to 0.010" which is 1.524 mm to 0.254 mm
The quenching circuit comes into effect at 0.025" to 0.015" which is 0.635 mm to 0.381 mm, or smaller

I wont show you any math just to keep things simple.

Suggestion for buying tubes: Stan uses thin wall tubes for the demo cell, outer was .750" OD, 0.035" thick, inner was 0.500" OD 0.049" thick, these are standard sizes you can buy, yes it was a typo in the drawing, he simply left out a zero, and for the inner and outer tubes, they weigh about exactly the same. Also, thin wall tubes are cheaper, and more likely to vibrate in the audio range.

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Re: Starting my project :Tube cell
« Reply #31 on: September 07, 2009, 19:50:21 pm »
Hi Donald,
 
Thanks for your reply sir.
 
What you say, makes sense.. but i have no experience with that mysterious viberations within the tubes i have seen been discussed here... 
 
Another reason why thin tubes is the best alternative when building a big cell for keeping the weight lowest possible.
 
I have seen SS 304 (A2) is getting a bit rusty after long use, so i would replace with 316 (A4) quality instead.
 
You may collect rainwater in a plastic barrel for testing with low mineral content for lower amp draw.
 
I bet the gap is important, but we can finetune the resonance with the VIC so it matches any gap...when we got it fully working i guess..  :)
 

 
 
 
 
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