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« Reply #104 on: May 08, 2009, 17:11:53 pm »
Interesting comments by Gause. Can you explain what burst frequency is? What is 1/3Hz burst freq?

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« Reply #105 on: May 08, 2009, 18:43:42 pm »
I agree , everybody should buy a pcb from jolt and experiment with something that can be gated easily .

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« Reply #106 on: May 08, 2009, 19:51:39 pm »
The burst freq means how often you shoot your pulse train of XX number of pulses. Ie Stan Meyer shot about 40-100 pulses per burst. One burst then produces wildly of HHO and the voltage remains high for a long period after the burst has finished. So that is why you need to wait for about 3 seconds before you fire again in order to avoid shorting everything out. My generator has a digital number of pulses(1-512) that you adjust. Then you adjust the burst freq after finding resonance. But nothing will happen unless you put a decent number of charges on the concentric cylinders(Amps).

Burst generators are often used in testing of electric equipment.  And nobody discusses this which is a shame. Amps and burst freq, keys to success.

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« Reply #107 on: May 08, 2009, 20:28:00 pm »
The burst freq means how often you shoot your pulse train of XX number of pulses. Ie Stan Meyer shot about 40-100 pulses per burst. One burst then produces wildly of HHO and the voltage remains high for a long period after the burst has finished. So that is why you need to wait for about 3 seconds before you fire again in order to avoid shorting everything out. My generator has a digital number of pulses(1-512) that you adjust. Then you adjust the burst freq after finding resonance. But nothing will happen unless you put a decent number of charges on the concentric cylinders(Amps).

Burst generators are often used in testing of electric equipment.  And nobody discusses this which is a shame. Amps and burst freq, keys to success.

Gaus,

How do you know all this? Where have you seen Stan writing or saying that he bursted 40-100 pulses per burst?
When i read your post, i read that you have already suceeded in replicating Stan. Is this correct?

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« Reply #108 on: May 08, 2009, 20:36:33 pm »
The burst freq means how often you shoot your pulse train of XX number of pulses. Ie Stan Meyer shot about 40-100 pulses per burst. One burst then produces wildly of HHO and the voltage remains high for a long period after the burst has finished. So that is why you need to wait for about 3 seconds before you fire again in order to avoid shorting everything out. My generator has a digital number of pulses(1-512) that you adjust. Then you adjust the burst freq after finding resonance. But nothing will happen unless you put a decent number of charges on the concentric cylinders(Amps).

Burst generators are often used in testing of electric equipment.  And nobody discusses this which is a shame. Amps and burst freq, keys to success.
hmm interesting.
afaik no-one succeeded in maintaining the HV?
The nr of pulses per burst, isn't it depended on the voltage you want to reach?

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« Reply #109 on: May 08, 2009, 20:40:00 pm »
Well that seems like a good generator , choosing the # of bursts seems great , but the jolt circuit does have control of freq and duty cycle of gate .

How much did that thing cost ?

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« Reply #110 on: May 18, 2009, 16:25:47 pm »
Many questions, it is vacation times etc...

So in short, it is really easy to get the maths if you consider the voltage Stan got to(max 20 kV in his wet cell I believe, in the dry cell alot more). The VIC has a 14:1 transformer ratio I believe. So in case you use 12 V you need many pulses to get to 20 kV without resonance. If you get resonance and need at least 3 mAmps 2ndary current it all unfolds. If he used 12-200 V primary then it can be anyything from 10 to 100 pulses depending on the input voltage. Let´s say he used a fixed burst freq to simplify things  then he needed to avoid shorting and couldn´t use too high input voltages.

My pulser uses a digitally set No of pulses(1 to 512), that cost me alot to build.... But variable capacitance is the biggest pain. But the learning experience is well worth it all. Then go to dry cell I believe is a good idea and to study the Lord Kelvin water dropper. That is what Stan did I believe. 60 kV you can reach with the Kelvin water dropper without the Tesla coil... And rain water is the best.... Hint: why does Stan talk about rain water as the best water..... Look at Vancouver they have come some way I believe. But why don´t they go to the dry cell by now?

Many things to learn, every day is a new experience.... And many troubles arise with this tech as some of us noted. Just keep working and try to get how water is polarized in micro capacitor water droplets. I believe a new engine is needed, the old piston is no good and one can as well use the Tesla turbine and build  a new engine. But it takes a lot of time and money, the only hitch....

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« Reply #111 on: May 18, 2009, 16:51:37 pm »
i think this might shed some light.. i was reading the pdf for the 1 millionth time and in the 6-1 section

"Injector (590) of Figure (6-2) and voltage intensifier coil-circuit (580) of Figure (6-1) as to (190)
of Figure (3-23) is electronically Interlinked with Water Fuel Management (WFMS) System "

i bring attention to this for the injector for one main reason.. all of stans wfms is highly insulated..  think about what charge could be isolated in the pump and lines going to the injectors.. existing in the water itself.. i would say the water is introduced into the cell with a high positve charge.. considering that it has the ionized high state oxygen in it. theres no other good explanation why stan choose to shield the wfms in delrin the way he did.