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Stun Gun VIC
« on: November 07, 2008, 23:55:31 pm »
i have always wanted to try this from the beginning.......
http://www.free-circuit-diagrams.com/power/page-1/238/high-voltage-stun-gun

many parallels with the vic.

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Re: Stun Gun VIC
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2008, 00:01:50 am »

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Re: Stun Gun VIC
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2008, 00:05:48 am »
wont work ,too much voltage  and what about the amp inhibiting effect ?

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Re: Stun Gun VIC
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2008, 00:13:48 am »
you can control the voltage to amp ratio.......then run it through a bifilar!

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Re: Stun Gun VIC
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2008, 05:14:44 am »
This could possibly work.

However, The 50% duty Stan mentions is a very important part of splitting water. As we know when you give a pulse to the inductors a field is created, when the pulse is terminated the field collapses and creates a second pulse. When the pulse given is a 50% duty cycle you will get a better effect and nearly a constant voltage source, but as stan meyer states there is a brief period of off pulse time.

I would not use the 555 as they are nearly impossible to get a 50% duty cycle, and they are not very stable. I would go with a 4046 VCO along with a 10V regulator.

If you want to replicate Stan, I would say you first need a high voltage transformer with dual secondary outputs (no shared ground between primary and secondary), you also need inductors and a good stable 50% duty cycle oscillator to run the transistor and transformer.

Another thing is the importance of gating to prevent the voltage runaway effect. Gating, as stan refers to, is when the off time is greater every X amount of pulses.
_-_-_-_-_-_-_-__________-_-_-_-_-_-_-__________-_-_-_-_-_-_-__________-_-_-_-_-_-_-_________

Look at the above as a sqaure wave, the gated part of this is the flat line and it represents a greater off time. The off time must be great enough to allow the capacitor to discharge, if not as stan says "the voltage will continue to increase until the gas is produced as fast as the water flowing into the cell"

The above pulse train would be the pulse train that powers the transistor and primary winding of the transformer, the secondary part of the circuit pulse train would then look like this.

_--------------------_--------------------_--------------------_--------------------__________---------------------_--------------------_--------------------__________--------------------

Of course these aren't exactly what the pulse trains would look like, but they are a good example.







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Re: Stun Gun VIC
« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2008, 06:05:39 am »
why dont you make a budget all on 1 core sectionnal spool instead of making some incorrect crap again , dont get desperate and try every crap you see on the net.... think.....

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Re: Stun Gun VIC
« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2008, 08:16:36 am »
All I'm saying is that this circuit will not give you a 50% duty cycle, which I believe is important when your working with inductors! I am not claimingf anything but simply sharing what stn has mentioned in his documents of a 50% duty cycle.

http://www.kpsec.freeuk.com/555timer.htm

Look at the diagram and read the part that talks about duty cycle. (about half way down the page)

Because of the diode a duty cycle of less than 50% will be maintained.

"In order to obtain exactly a 50% duty cycle from the 555 Timer, two resistors of identical value are required."

Using 2 identical resistors will not allow you to change frequencies, and if you do get a 555 to produce an adjustable duty cycle capable of 50% your frequencies will change with the duty cycle, making it nearly impossible to get resonance and a 50% duty cycle. The only way i see around this is to build the circuit as shown in stan's diagram.

http://www.ionizationx.com/index.php/topic,665.0.html

Please don't take me out to be a dissinformation agent. that i am not, however I am learning, just like most of us here are and I have make assumptions and mistakes in the past. I try to share what I have learned and experimented with, nothing more.

KINESIS!

I would try out this circuit, it seems pretty cheap to build and something good to learn from. I may try it myself and possibly make modifications to it as well.

Good luck

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Re: Stun Gun VIC
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2008, 11:32:05 am »
i think i will buy a stun gun.....and run its transformer with my pwm....doesnt hurt to try