Author Topic: Syncronized 3 frequency Gen (possible alternative for Bob's style toroid)  (Read 4130 times)

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I think the reason Bob's system only produces great output at times, it is because the 3 frequencies are not in sync.

Here is a circuit I put toguether that might do the job.

It uses 2 Flip Flops  and 3 divide by 10 chips.

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Great idea, Claudio!
Thanks for putting this schematic here.

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Can you post the schematic with actual components
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Well I don't think we can avoid using the toroid.. the schematic I posted is an alternative for the circuit that drives the toroid.

The circuit Bob released to the public uses 3 independent pulse generators(556), and I heard that with that circuit the production is not constant.

So I assume the reason for that it is because the 3 frequencies are not in sync with each other.

The circuit I posted will keep the 3 frequecies in sync.

the divide by 10 are cd4017, the flipflops are cd4013, the main clock from the 555 needs to be about 428 khz

I spoke with Stevie today, and he recomended using a CD4060 to replace the 555 and cd4013.

The reason for the cd4017 is to provide a 10% duty cycle and to control how to sync the frequencies.
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Just for your information.

I heard from a good friend of Bob Boyce today and he said that Bob's current series cell is getting over 50 liters of hydrogen per minute.  The cell is for whatever reason blowing up circuits like crazy and that's getting really expensive.  This information is from a very reliable serious Bob Boyce cell replicator.  I'm not allowed to give out his name.  I just shared this information to let you know that this cell system is a fairly good producer.  He didn't mention the number of plates and I forgot to ask him, but I know that they were building some systems recently with over 100 plates.  It may have been one of the larger cells.  Good luck!!

Electrojolt,

I hope I didn't mess up your thread.
An easier alternative to the Bob toroid setup would be very nice.  I know one guy that has wound Bob's toroid three times and he still doesn't have it right.  He's very frustrated.

did you do the bob boyce circuit and is it functional ,meaning are you producing large ammount of hho with less amps with higher MMW ?

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najman,

(I'll see if I can't get some better information for you.)

The guy I referenced has built the Bob Boyce circuit and is very happy with it.  He never gave actual gas outputs of his own cell.  He's primarily interested in the Meyer's cell himself.

Gary/Chemelec says he's come up with the ultimate pwm.  You might want to check it out on his site.  He won't give all the details on it, because he is getting ready to maybe mass produce and market it.  I talked with him last evening.

well i ve seen his pwm if it and upgrade of zero fossil fuel nothing impressive
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najman,

(I'll see if I can't get some better information for you.)

The guy I referenced has built the Bob Boyce circuit and is very happy with it.  He never gave actual gas outputs of his own cell.  He's primarily interested in the Meyer's cell himself.

Gary/Chemelec says he's come up with the ultimate pwm.  You might want to check it out on his site.  He won't give all the details on it, because he is getting ready to maybe mass produce and market it.  I talked with him last evening.

Hi Fiditti,

Thanks for sharing this info.
Its a nice pwm.
Its a nice way of keeping yr amps on the same level.

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steve