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Electric Motor for driving alternator query
« on: October 01, 2008, 16:40:44 pm »
It would appear that the use of the alternator may be the best choice.
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Re: Electric Motor for driving alternator query
« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2008, 17:55:42 pm »

 Couldn't mount it extra on the engine, or, on the driveshaft ???

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Re: Electric Motor for driving alternator query
« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2008, 18:27:41 pm »
an alternator isn't required its just the analog way of doing pulses instead of the digital way......apples to bulky oranges.

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Re: Electric Motor for driving alternator query
« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2008, 19:03:03 pm »
haroldcr,

No,  there is no room for it in the motor compartment.  Thanks for your reply.

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Re: Electric Motor for driving alternator query
« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2008, 20:48:56 pm »
hahah then your electronic friends are not doing there digital method correctly.....believe what you want......but they are identical if used correctly.....one is just analog and the other is digital it's that simple.....the alternator is nothing magical in this case.....it is magical in general but not for producing hydrogen it's just easier to replicate as is anything analog compared to digital.....but hey why dont you get some of your electronic friends on this forum since they seem to be hands on.

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Re: Electric Motor for driving alternator query
« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2008, 07:38:00 am »
The alternator resonated best with my cell around 34ish hundred Rpms. Any faster and the dc gets to Pure. Any slower then the 3 phases of the alternator does not interlock at the right time. Gas production drops. Getting the alternator to resonate with a cell is tricky, "since just any cell will not work." With bigger cells you want get resonance, unless you use additives. The alternator resonated good with 6 small tube cells any more and its a pure amp thing. Its efficient if you tune it right to the right cell! To power a big cell "parallel or series" your wasting your time, unless you use additives with series, ("bigger parallel's would require much bigger alternator to gain a resonance.") Varying the rpms on the alternator will throw the cell out of resonance, meaning if your alternator is spinning at 3400 rpms, in my case i found resonance pulsing about 1.6 amps to the rotor, if you slow the alternator down under 3k rpms then your wasting your time, if you go over 3.4k or so rpms your again making it to pure, and wasting your time.

For additive cells this alternator is great, for big series cells its not good. For small series cells with additives the output is great, when i say small what i mean is all you have is 60 volts max! Fuel cells have "Cut On Volatages." To many plates in series and it want cut on, so you'd have to figure the number of plates you needed for the alternator and how much additives to use, if you guessed wrong it want cut on. With the right series additive cell the alternator will resonate with it even if its only 6 plates in series with potassium hydroxide. The output would be far greater than what parallel tube cells can do.

When i ran my 6 tube cells it consumed 18 volts 15 amps. That was 1.2 OHMS at resonance "from the best of my memory", when i say my cell stayed cool it did at 1.2 Ohms longer than my later setup with 12 tubes, 22 volts 35 amps, from the best of my memory. That's .62 Ohms, it got warmer faster because there was less resistance "alternator couldn't power to resonance, it cant handle 12 tubes." Also at 12 tube with .62 ohms there was no resonance since the cell setup needed a much bigger alternator, or phases.  12 tubes was a "Dead Short," the alternator could not bring itself to resonance. This is what i mean by using to many parallel cells. For 12 tubes, i need a special alternator that's not on the market, and a much bigger driver motor if i wanted to hit resonance, Hydroxy output is increased at resonance and it is efficient, but efficient doesn't get you down the road.

When i say resonance what i mean is the fuel cell and alternator is in resonance. I only seen this with 6 cells. Actually, the fuel cell resonates with the rotor where the fuel cell extracts electrons onto the rotor in the loop mode way, then the alternator amps it and returns it back to the cell. If one was to get resonance with a series cell with additives, i think it produce lots of gas if tuned, but they key to resonance is the right cell with the right power source.

Look at bobs setup and compare that to what i say, you change his cell and the electronics will have to be tuned differently, add 20 plates to bobs setup, take 20 away from it.  Same thing with the alternator and tube cell. For me, the alternator worked with 6 small cells. Same is with the lawton circuit, it worked great with 6 small cells. Im sure some of you guy's can take this to the commercial level if you wanted.

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Re: Electric Motor for driving alternator query
« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2008, 08:13:36 am »
a couple more days and i will post a test video of my setup.

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Re: Electric Motor for driving alternator query
« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2008, 08:24:47 am »
Kines i agree that its old. I also agree that digital is better. However.

I disagree if you do not use coils, i also disagree if you do not use coils with at least 2 or more phases.  Pulsing electrical power without a coil is not really good. It is in the coil that breaks the water, not in the voltage. Coils are great for this, something with the fields they create. A capacitor is much like a coil, but i'm not real sure a capacitor can do what a coil can. It would be nice to see.