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patent 5,149,407
« on: August 14, 2008, 07:34:18 am »
first off here is the original vic diagram we are used to seeing.
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/kinesisfilms/question5.jpg)

and from the independant study report
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/kinesisfilms/question6.jpg)


then in his later patents he changes.

i thought the ground was supposed to be isolated before going to the electrodes......
why is the connection different here then on every other patent.

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/kinesisfilms/question.jpg)

again why the change ???????

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/kinesisfilms/questions2.jpg)

then from patent 4826581

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/kinesisfilms/question4.jpg)
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/kinesisfilms/question3.jpg)

why is this voltage intensifier circuit connected differently??

plus he also switches up hte connections on the anod and cathode.

anyone? would it still work the same?

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Re: patent 5,149,407
« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2008, 10:17:55 am »
my 2 cents

The first schematic is about the wfc.
The others are for gas treatment.

If you wanna know if the change of kathode and anode make a diff, just give it a try.


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Re: patent 5,149,407
« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2008, 07:59:02 am »
when the website was down i had nowhere else to post things about the photos from the found buggy/documents images.....so when i saw the photo of the air processor dankie brought up questions...so here is the thread...i just want to know everyone elses ideas on this...
http://waterfuelcell.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1097

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Re: patent 5,149,407
« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2008, 03:37:47 am »
Kinesis!

Thanks for sharing the following with us, it's exactly what stan was saying although I never realized it until you put it out in front of me.

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now i just rewatched the new zealand house lecture part 2 and listened about the gas processor.....so what i've collected is that by sending the gas through a highvoltage field such as the voltage intensifier crk't (the coil on the gas processor) you strip away electrons from ths oxygen atom say down to 2 valence elctrons (lost 4 electrons) the hydrogen atom still only having 1 atom rushes back to the oxygen in order to form h2o again by magnetic polarities....but once it reach the oxygen the oxygen atom strip away the hydrogen atoms electrons leaving hydrogen with nothing but a proton and leaving oxygen still short electrons and unstable....and the remaning energy fields are given off as the power output. this is what happens in the mixing manifold.....but i still don't understand the use of a spark plug for ignition if it is now giving off energy?

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« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2008, 08:59:32 am »
im understanding this more and more and more.....if i only had the machinery to machine me a water fuel injector.....soooooo here is a system that is used to run with gasoline and hydrogen.....becuase this alone is not enough to run a full car.

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/kinesisfilms/ionizeoxygen.jpg)


and now here is all it takes to make a car run completely on water....

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/kinesisfilms/entiresystem.jpg)

but read this.
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/kinesisfilms/no-more-fuelcell.jpg)

this is the fuel cell mentioned....look familiar....notice the non combustible gases...which are introduced throug hthe water at port 153 becuase of the exhuast recycling process.
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/kinesisfilms/fuelcell120.jpg)


now here is the technical information of how the water only system works....
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/kinesisfilms/injectionwatersystem.jpg)

notice the words *laser primed
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/kinesisfilms/triggering.jpg)

a closeup of the distribution disc also known as the mixing manifold
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/kinesisfilms/spradc.jpg)

this is what non-combustible gases mean.
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/kinesisfilms/noncombustible.jpg)

how its sprayed.
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/kinesisfilms/spraypattern.jpg)

notice the ambient air inlet is seperate from what goes on with hte water fuel injector.
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/kinesisfilms/cylinderretrofit.jpg)


so what we have here all lies within the water injectors and the air ionizer.....everyone focuses so hard on the fuel cell....as the main item running a car......the air ionizer is massively important......but even more so is the static pressure which can turn a system as in the first photo to a system as in the second photo.....(one gasoline/hydrogen) and one (hydrogen only).......after im done with the fuel cell i am going to start moving on to replicating the air ionizer.....i just need more information on the electron extraction circuit......this is a large void for me right now.....but all of this is jumping the gun, i will take this step at a time so look out we are taking real steps here.


here's the magic.
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/kinesisfilms/wholeshebang.jpg)

and here is the whole carberated view.
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/kinesisfilms/whoview.jpg)

now that it is understood we just have to build it.......

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Re: patent 5,149,407
« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2008, 09:45:20 am »
and the steram resonator is amazing!!! its used to ensure that no matter what climate your in your water will not freeze.....kinetic energy!!!.....

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/kinesisfilms/steamresonator.jpg)

there is a modern photo of the steam resonator  from dynodons last visit to the buggy....it is attached to the cap of the water tank.

but here is the old photos.
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/kinesisfilms/SteamResonator2web.jpg)
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/kinesisfilms/SteamResonatorweb.jpg)


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Re: patent 5,149,407
« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2008, 10:34:02 am »
so i've come to the conclusion that this can be built without the need to take away your spark plugs and create a water fuel injector.....we just need to create an air ionizer nad palce that on our intake system after the air filter and have our fuel cell gas outputs go directly to the intake manifold....mixing inside the manifold and being ignited by our spark plugs.....not as efficient but should work damn closer than we have ever been.....still i think the most important thing to figure out is the electron extraction circuit.......this is the heart of keeping atoms in an energetic state....oh and from what i've read it seems that in order to control your throttle you just change the pulse width of the air ionizer LEDs.....so read patent 5293857 since i personaly believe this is what each and everyone of us can achieve and aim for....while the next step up (water injectors in place of spark plugs thus replacing the water fuel cell) is out of our pockets.......anyone have anything to add to any of the above posts......let's get started on this air ionizer!!

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Re: patent 5,149,407
« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2008, 18:17:08 pm »
Great idea baout the air ionizer in the intake track, I have thought of that myself and I think it's a solid way to making it work. As far as I know the air ionizer uses HV fields to ionize the air (the same way those home air ionizers work) but as far as the LED's that' still a riddle to me as to what exactly the do and what wavelength they are. I've heard 660nm but I'm not sure.

The spark plugs will not need to be removed, look at daniel dingle's videos, from what I can see, he replaced his fuel injectors with a type of Vacuum check valve which pulled the hydrogen in under engine vacuum. Probably a simple thing to do!