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Re: My Glass and SS cell use no amp and still hydrogen production!
« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2008, 16:13:08 pm »
Alvas,

thanks for sharing your odd results!
I like it very much when people are trying different things. I also have some of those crazy sesions in my lab...
Your results are interesting. I read that Andrea puharich also used glas in his wfc.

because of the unusual setup, i would like to ask you to publish some photo,s if possible. Maybe a video too?
That would help us to understand yr description of yr setup.

my first comment would be:
what kind of amp meter do you have? A digital one?
Secondly, electrons travel slow in water. Very well done with having patience on possible results!

What are yr next steps on this?

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Re: My Glass and SS cell use no amp and still hydrogen production!
« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2008, 23:38:40 pm »
Hi alvas,

time is the biggest problem for many of us.
Nice to read your tests!

Do you have an theory on the glas effect?

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Re: My Glass and SS cell use no amp and still hydrogen production!
« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2008, 16:12:52 pm »
Hi Stevie,


First of all thank you.

I put this out here so other can test different configurations with glass and SS.

I  don`t have much time do test all my ideas because i have a Industrial company that is time consuming.

There is many ways to make these cells and have some new ideas allready.

I used a digital multi meter on that setup. ( Tested it on an all SS cell that is -+- right before, and it showed 2 amp. so it `s working.)

I came up with this idea when i heard Stan Meyer talked about restrict the amps  ;D

First i made an all ABS plastic cell.... notting to it.
Then plastic and SS... still notting.
Then an all PET plastic cell...notting
Then PET and SS... notting
Then all plywood...notting
Then  plywood and SS... a bit gas production but the plywood won`t  last long in water anyway.

And finally a SS and glass cell.

My "plan"  is to make a bigger cell and use higer voltages. High voltage and low current  as Stan said...

This is low current.


Kind regards
alvas

I have been contimplating doing some similar experiments based on reading about the "triboelectric effect".  Most of what I've read pertains to static electricity, but I beleive it has some relevance to what we are trying to achieve.

Glass gains a positve electrical charge according to http://www.school-for-champions.com/science/static_materials.htm and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triboelectric_effect.  At the other end of the scale are some plastics and teflon.

Did you try reversing polarity on any of your tests?

Please try reversing polarity on your glass and SS setup and see if production stops.  This simple test may show some important data as to wheter the type of insulating material has any effect on the release or collection of electrons in the cell. 

Thanks for posting your info,

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Re: My Glass and SS cell use no amp and still hydrogen production!
« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2008, 20:28:02 pm »
Great info, Mike!
Also a good question for you Alvas..
Can you make some minutes free to do this test request?
Mike,s comments do make sense...

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Re: My Glass and SS cell use no amp and still hydrogen production!
« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2008, 04:59:25 am »

Tested it with reversed polarity  with almost the same result.


Thanks so much for the test/info.

You are correct that we need to share our information.  This is too important not to. 

This is WAY too big of a project to take on by ones self. 

This sham of fuel and other high energy costs has got to end for the good of us all.

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Re: My Glass and SS cell use no amp and still hydrogen production!
« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2008, 09:58:42 am »
Hi Stevie,



Since it is not possible to measure the amp i believe the glass is acting as a resistor,
and this again makes an electrostatic or magnetic field  on the negative connected/charged top SS plate.

And since there was not coming bubbles from the positive bottom SS plate, i wondered what kind of gas there was on the negative top plate.

The negative plate usually makes the hydrogen in an "ordinary cell" but it is hard to believe that this setup made only hydrogen because the oksygene have to go somwhere
when the hydrogene is produced.

My thoughts now is that i made Hydrogene and Oksygene only on the top plate... and that is MAGIC!


The "sandwich" looked like this :             ( I called it "the spider" when the plastic spring clamps was on )

STAINLESS STEEL PLATE negative top plate
1,2 MM WATER GAP (spacing)
GLASS PLATE
STAINLESS STEEL PLATE  positive charged bottom plate
( maybe add an glass plate at bottom for isolation)

Tickness of glass and ss and water gap may be varied for different results..


Remember the fantastic amount of  hydrogas Stanley Meyer made, and he still had to use water droplets in the injectors combined with UV lasers ( laser priming he called it )
in the air intake and maybe in the cell - to get that buggy run.
 
I believe that Stan found out the you don`t really need that much gas because it only need to act as a trigger for the photon energy that he discovered when he combined water.
I myself have an old daily driver ( and i love it ), and it has some water in the bottom of the gas tank after all the years, when some of that water is sucked up with the gasoline by the pump to the caburetor, the engine get an higer rpm!!! There is hydrogene in the all new gasoline too and my old car got a lot of stored up condense in the tank and that have learned me that water do explode in our engines allready. ( we just don`t know it ) Most of us anyway  ;D)  There is also dripping water out of my tailpipe allmost like a hydrogen car  ;D

When we have made much gas with a reasnoble amount of amp ( AND YOU HAVE DONE THAT STEVIE   ;D) The next step will be to avoid the gas to recombine to water again on its way to the
injector /ignitor system. AND find correct uv laser light.  I think we really don`t need a hydrogen cell at all. CAN MAKE A SPARK PLUG THAT CAN MAKE HYDROGEN FROM A FEW WATER DROPLETS! right before the ignition. igniti-ION  ( ION    ::))

I am more interested in making a hydrogene sparkplug than testing more cells at this moment.

(Here is a French Stanley Meyer site ( see fig. 1 and fig. 6 )       http://quanthomme.free.fr/carburant/WFCMeyer.htm
 


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alvas









Hi Alvas,

I understand yr writings here.
There are many setups which probably will work for running an ICE.

About the whole after treatment, i already started a topic on that.
http://www.ionizationx.com/index.php/topic,407.0.html

I did research on laserdiodes and i have them already in my lab. I already put all info on that here on Ionizationx
I also agree on sharing info. Thats the whole reason of this forum. Of course, many are fortune seakers, but at the end, the world must become a cleaner world and maybe a better one......

I like what you do  with the whole healing things and so. I have done also some of that. I also know that everything is energy.
I do not want to sound unrespectful, but if you have angels on yr shoulder, can you ask them for specific info?
I believe in them. Only never spoke to one of them.....as far as i remember. Can they ask Stan Meyer some questions?
Again..not ment to be disrespectful.

Br
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Re: My Glass and SS cell use no amp and still hydrogen production!
« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2008, 22:26:14 pm »
Alvas,

thanks for being so open on this not so usual subject.
We can use all the help we can get.
Can you ask the following question?
We like you to draw with help from stan the real circuit with the real electrodes......

and for my own curiosity.....ios it possible that bad spirits show up and pretent to be a good guy?

br

steve