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Re: Stevie1001 JLN replication
« Reply #16 on: October 09, 2008, 07:42:45 am »
WOW YOU ARE COMPLETELY RIGHT I AM TRULY SORRY I SOME HOW MIXED THIS UP.....SO MUCH READING MY MEMORY HAS BLENDED......YOU ARE CORRECT ABOUT 153 BEING A FILTERING SYSTEM THAT ACTS AS A WATERING PUMP.....but remeber that was not used in his prior cells to get it to work.....that was an added feature much like a steam resonator which is not need to make the system work......

now about hte exhaust being reused becuase of the valued non combustibles......that air was recirculated into the intake system not the water system that was my blending slip up.....I AM SORRY. THANK YOU FOR CATCHING THIS.

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/kinesisfilms/exhaustrecirculation.jpg)

but some of hte non combustible gases could be dissolved in the water....if not purified......or they could be introduced through the air system and never endingly (if that's a word) recirculated.

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/kinesisfilms/noncombustible.jpg)

they escape into the injectors.....as here.

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/kinesisfilms/triggering.jpg)

non combustible gases.
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/kinesisfilms/wholeshebang.jpg)

they control the burn rate.
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/kinesisfilms/noncombustinjection.jpg)


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Re: Stevie1001 JLN replication
« Reply #17 on: October 09, 2008, 10:18:43 am »
that basically sums up what im trying to do also.

now there is a mystery here......in meyers middle patents he had hte air processor and the water fuel cell hooked up to a car system running into the carberator, but it still wasn't cutting it.....so he made everything happen right at the cylinder......as this one guy stated on youtube its not the burning of the hho which gives you the enormous power otput but the expansion from water to hho and the burning all at once which is why meyer had everything happen at the cylinder......if we could get this to happen at the cylinder and then used a pulsed voltage to ignite the product......this is what is his instant thermal explosion.....it just seemed to happen instantly......but i don't think we are capable at this moment in time of machining these spark plug replacements.....so here is the intended plan incredibyl similiar if not the same exact plan as yours.

first off now in number 2 your idea of an ultra sonic fogger might be damn damn good.....but for now i want to see if the fuel cell itself might supply enough water vapor under vacuum to feed to the plasma plugs.....
but more doesn't hurt......so let's put that on the drawing board.

second......we need to get plasma plugs up to "firestorm" potential........as krupa has said it will  burn anything and everything in the cylinder.....just as the geet fuel processor can use any fuel that can be vaporized due to it's plasma field.

third number 3 will be the largest challenge to build.....the amount of energy need to bump electrons up to a higher orbit than remove the electron via the "electron extraction circuit" will be a hard thing to crack.....i don't understand the concept of but common sense tells me that just make a field of a positive charge to have it extract the electrons.......you will know this works when something like a light bulb begins to glow......then we have it working!

fourth the exhaust system will most likley be pretty standard.....we could take say 1/4th of the exhaust and have it recirculated so no computers or electronic controls would be needed just simple physical properties such as a pipe diverting 1/4th the exhaust back into the intake system.


and once again as krupa has stated that he has gotten his gasoline powered car with plasma plugs to a ratio of 30:1 while testing......once we have hydrogen matched to the burn rate of gasoline than we can tweak it in the same ratio sense.....even farther improving our efficeincy.......

we can match and even surpass meyers final injector system by using his non injector method with plasma introduced.......this will open up a whole new door......combining the ideas of meyers, pantone, an krupa.....we are getting closer and closer everyday.......

the guys over at overunity working on the plasma plugs are doing a damn good job......they are covering that quite well......

the fuel cell should be completely replicated within the next 2 days at most.....the damn mail is slacking......our focus should turn towards the ionizer.......


now about your coils.....you should only need one.....since all the power is coming from one transformer there is no need to split it up it will just decrease the power in each coil by the amount of coils added and decrease the magnetic inductance since less current will be running through each coil...either way teh same amount of power is going through all of them as if it would be just one supplying all 9 tubes with it...and remember in the international study report there was only one bifilar wound core in the box used for the 9 tube set......(if you are lost by this i can explain what is going on with meyers cell about current and voltage performing work there is a common misconception about how to apply voltage to do work.)


so i am with you on working around not being able to create a water fuel injector, but by utilizing all the things you have listed.

and as for the photos, i just print screen and then paste it into photoshop cut it down and upload it.

when are you going to get hands on i would love to see you do the ideas you have since some of the things you come up with might even be an entirely new process.

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Re: Stevie1001 JLN replication
« Reply #18 on: October 09, 2008, 15:26:52 pm »
I have been delayed, bad crank bad block.

Keep up the good work... Meanwhile. What did stan use the steam resonator for? 6 tube cell with 1 amp say 130 volts will consume water very rapidly into steam. Also this method will make water gun, on demand steam stop start super heated water gushes.

example 1 9 inch long tub cell will consume 10 to 15 amps for 4 seconds, thats how long it takes to super heat the water. once heated hydroxy stops and super heat begins, amps then drop to 1. then, the water boils out so rapidly you cant keep it in the tube.

Just a something to study.

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Re: Stevie1001 JLN replication
« Reply #19 on: October 09, 2008, 16:40:39 pm »
to hydrocars the steam resonator just kept the water from freezing by making the water move...kinetic energy and kinetic friction thus the water cannot freeze.....it was an add on for people that live in cold areas.


remember the circuits draws amperage up to the bifilar coil, where everything after that draws near zero current....the cell draws nothing but the magnetic cores do.....that's how they work.....look where meyers places his amp meter.......

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Re: Stevie1001 JLN replication
« Reply #20 on: October 09, 2008, 22:06:15 pm »
Now I feel as if I am the only one that read the patent fully, for I really trust your judgement, but you got this one wrong.  Perhaps you just over looked it, right? #144 and #153 hook up to figure #3-45 Electrostatic filter Assy, and the water is flowing through the system from top to bottom and back again. I am not sure how this thing works but I know the direction of water flow. And it shows that water is flowing through the system just as water flows through Kelvin Generators.

I am not sure why Meyer put the Non-combustable gases in there for he shows no way they got in there. Maybe perhaps of gases already present in the water, you know disolved in solution, and he is accounting for them.

The way I am setting up the WFC it will be able to be pulled into any place needed by the user, it should be able to take pressure and vacuum. I am going to hook it up like Dr. Dingel has his hooked up so it will be under a vacuum but anyone can make this cell I will share the designes, just note that it is a prototype and needs testing.

I have to make the Gas Processor, this one I am going to do just as Meyer has shown if I can figure out the measurements, and latter on I will modify the cars EGR valve so it too can be like Meyer's. One step at a time for me kinda sucks that time is running out with the North American Union stuff, for it looks like we have until Feb but the economy might fold by Christmas, we all are going to have to wait and see.

Energy independence we must make it happen,
h2opower.

Hi H2Opower,

Question: were did you find that electrostatic filter drawing?
I cannot remember ever seen that one..

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Re: Stevie1001 JLN replication
« Reply #21 on: October 09, 2008, 22:54:20 pm »
I agree with Hydrocars,

If water can be broken into HHO using voltage potential as stated by Stan, water would have to be in gas form (steam).

This is when water molecules are not bonded to each other.

As hydrocars mentioned, when water starts boiling AMPS will go down, and you can up the voltage and AMPs will drop a little more.

as you can see in this video:

http://electrojolt.com/cracked.wmv

It started at 50 volts, and ended at 130 volts, and at 130 volts AMPs went down.

This matches Stans Graph about Amp Restriction.


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Re: Stevie1001 JLN replication
« Reply #22 on: October 09, 2008, 23:41:11 pm »
water does not have to be in gas form to be broken down.....steam....no......no no no.....this is not meyers method.

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Re: Stevie1001 JLN replication
« Reply #23 on: October 10, 2008, 00:11:08 am »
water does not have to be in gas form to be broken down.....steam....no......no no no.....this is not meyers method.

How do you know? Have you replicated Stan's process?