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Re: JNL replications
« Reply #16 on: June 29, 2008, 13:05:11 pm »
This ia an abstract from one of  Meyer patents

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Re: JNL replications
« Reply #17 on: June 30, 2008, 01:41:12 am »
This company has a dielectric powder coat good for 3500V/mil http://e-fab.com/dielectric-coating.htm

Another option might be Kapton polyimide insulation tubing good for 7000V/mil available at http://www.smallparts.com/

These might end up a little pricey though.

I think the end solution is going to end up being fairly cheap.

If the electrodes end up being fully insulated, and I believe they will, nearly any conductive material can be used.
Damn, I better quit smashing those beer cans, they may be potential electrodes!!! ;D

@h2opower, thanks for the link, but how far out the voltage potential can "reach out" from the conductor vs voltage applied with no current flow is something I still have not found yet.  I think I'm not using the correct search term while looking.

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« Reply #18 on: July 02, 2008, 16:30:28 pm »
Hi all !

First, I post a few days ago and this message had been goodly understood. Many thanks and apologie me for my pathetic post. I think it had deserved the WFC community rather than hurt it.

Second, I thaught yesterday on thing ... Does someone well minded with aluminum oxyde (Al2O3) ?
It has a several dielectric property.
And what about copper (Cu) has innertube ?

All of this is really cheap.

The question is for someone who deal with classic electrolysis, so I can mix my copper, covered by aluminum oxyde : the thin of the material is highly calculable !!!

Am I dreaming or is it realistic ?

See ya.
Daffy !

p.s. : Aluminum oxyde <=> 10^18 Ohms/mm .... dielectric constant : 10 ... Regerate himself and quasi understructable !
         Aluminum oxyde <=> 60 000 tons by year now.

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Re: JNL replications
« Reply #19 on: July 02, 2008, 16:41:31 pm »
I was inspired by Jln’s replication so I wrapped the inner tube in a sheet of polythane (the kind that is used to wrap fish and that is oven friendly) and secured it with a heat shrink tubing.

I connected a coil driver to a  MOT and connected the secondary to the cell with a diode. The lead with the diode is the positive terminal.

I immediately noticed small bubbles with intermittent large bubbles. This is the first time I have gotten a reaction from high voltage.

So I think the secrete ingredient is not so much electronics but a good water capacitor.

Conditioning the tubes will take forever. We need something better than that.

I am looking for ideas on how to make a very good water capacitor.

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Re: JNL replications
« Reply #20 on: July 02, 2008, 17:02:16 pm »
agreed yaro, so don't forgot my post, just coincidiously previous your !

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Re: JNL replications
« Reply #21 on: July 02, 2008, 22:00:39 pm »
Duffy,

Do you have a source for the Alu oxide you want to use? I found a floor finish called TREK PLUS that has alu oxide in it.

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Re: JNL replications
« Reply #22 on: July 02, 2008, 23:42:24 pm »
Re Hi yaro,
         Do you have a source for the Alu oxide you want to use? I found a floor finish called TREK PLUS that has alu oxide in it.
No, not at all. I haven't got any source. Be carrefull, I don't want material with Al in, but copper (2 mm/thin) with Al2O3 around (1 mm/thin).
I just found dudes in my region : astronomers need to deal with Al on glass cause of their experiments. I'll join them this week.
A physician scientist told me that "Philips" (near my place) were able to put Al on Cu but it's a production secret.
He concluded by the fact that we even can not vapor Al on the Cu tube cause of high vaporisation temperature of Al, Cu could cast ...
And I'm sure that a millimeter of Al2O3 will simply stop all current in the cell which is what I want of the cell : construct a good "capacitor array" !

Best regards.
Daff
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Re: JNL replications
« Reply #23 on: July 06, 2008, 17:43:42 pm »
Hi all,

I am having trouble with the following part of the JN and Stan Meyer schematics,
The thing is how to pulse a transformer.
We all see the FET pulsing one of the 2 coils of the trafo.
What ever i try, the maximum frequency acceptable for the trafo is 5khz...
At that part , the signal is getting worse and worse.
I wanna go up to 300khz......
I have an oscillator that can reach this frequency
I have a FET that do the job.
BUT my toroid trafo is keeping me from getting there. I need HV at 300khz! :o :o :o :-\ :-\ :-\
All  suggestions are appriciated!

br
Steve