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##### Re: Resonance 6 times more amps out then in
« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2020, 16:39:37 pm »
Something is not measured correctly. Power in can not be least rhan power out. Amps can go higher but voltage drops.
My setup was drawing 24v at 2.5 amps and the cell was drawing 4.8amps with 50 duty cycle.

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##### Re: Resonance 6 times more amps out then in
« Reply #9 on: September 20, 2020, 16:43:06 pm »
Lack of time and money, it is expensive.
I wanted to build the 9 tube setup with alternator, but the materials are dificult to find and expensive, specially the pexiglas housing

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##### Re: Resonance 6 times more amps out then in
« Reply #10 on: September 20, 2020, 18:22:16 pm »
hi Steve  it has been a while, it will depend on what resonance you a talking about, if the cell set up is such that if measured or calculated,  with the wet cells like this the capacitance of the two tubes will change as the power starts the cell working.

so the output of a transformer coil is connected in parallel to form a tank circuit,  the dc resistance of the out put winding's and the dc resistance of the cell is  very high almost not measurable, as it is a leaky capacitor.
when you pulse the now tank circuit the frequency has to be adjusted until we have a resonance of the tank circuit, this is hard to keep in tune,, but can be done. what happens now is the only resistance is in the winding of the output transformer.
so the voltage applied now is acting only on the dc resistance, now what happened it the circulating current.through the winding and the cell will in crease dramatically.   voltage applied/dc ohms.  24v x 0.1 could give you 240 circulating amps or 24/2ohm still gives you 12amps. the power applied to the primary side will be small compared with the circulating currents,   you have to keep adjusting the frequency to keep it in resonance until it levels out.
I have done a lot of this many years ago.

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##### Re: Resonance 6 times more amps out then in
« Reply #11 on: September 20, 2020, 20:08:29 pm »
Aussepom? !
You are still going strong?
Thats a nice surprise

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##### Re: Resonance 6 times more amps out then in
« Reply #12 on: September 20, 2020, 22:43:04 pm »
The thing with this setup is that a pulse comes off the cell after it has received a charge pulse.
That off pulse is added to the charge pulse.
Thats why you can measure more amps going into the cell then coming off the powersupply.

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##### Re: Resonance 6 times more amps out then in
« Reply #13 on: September 21, 2020, 11:14:22 am »
Something is not measured correctly. Power in can not be least rhan power out. Amps can go higher but voltage drops.
My setup was drawing 24v at 2.5 amps and the cell was drawing 4.8amps with 50 duty cycle.

I understand your thinking, as i did the same for a while.
But think about this: my powersupply still delivers 12v, even with a duty cycle of 30%.
A normal voltmeter will show 4 volts, but you should use a scope or rms meter.
The 12v doesnt change.
Another thing: i measure 0.20amps from the powersupply and before the cell, when i do not use the resonance or bucking/boosting effect. When i use the resonance, i measure 0.60amps. on what is going in the cell.
So, there is a charge coming off the cell, after the charge pulse is gone.
That charge is used on top of the normal charge pulse.

Long story short. You do NOT waist voltage for amperage with this setup.

The only thing i am asking myself is that there is almost no current going when i use 2 or 3 volts with a duty of 30%.
Thats why i raised voltage a bit. Ohms law apply,s. More volts, same resistance means more amps.

The other thing is that i am convinced that splitting water with a higher voltage is creating a more powerfull type of gas....
Pulsed dc also creates more monotomic hydrogen, means more mass and more power.

I will setup my big two plate Anderson cell and see how that works with this circuit. That cell pulls lots of amps with strait DC and still the water didnt fill it self full of bubles.
Mayby we see something different this time with resonance.

And my last comment is that is used the primairy of an ignitioncoil and i achieved the same results into resonance......

cheers!

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##### conclusion Re: Resonance 6 times more amps out then in
« Reply #14 on: October 02, 2020, 17:24:31 pm »
Conclusion: is pulsed DC more electrical efficient then strait DC? Is pulsed DC with resonance coil more electrical efficient then strait DC and normal pulsed DC?

The tests are ran with the same cell. Same powersupply and the same resonant rod / coil.
Ran tests at multiple frequencys and different duty cycles.

Conclusion is that nothing is more electrical efficient then strait DC. Its normal electrolysis.
If your powersource cannot supply the 2volts per cell, you can use pulsed DC with a coil. The end result is that that coil is transforming the pulse into the normal power needed for the cell.

NOTE
This means not that the type of gas is the same or is more or less powerfull. That test requires a different test setup.
The types of gas produced by a browns gas generator produces like  types of isotopes, mainly because its is pulsed dc.
In the off periode, the hydrogen and oxygen atoms will rise before they reach the electrodes.

If you have any questions, please let me know.

Steve