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Re: Sequential high voltage distriuter
« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2020, 15:34:53 pm »
Stan made it in a way as to recycle this energy from the charge up in a resonant tank.. I believe two systems are required but I'm not sure.. perhaps just using catalyst electrodes already do the task

So basically we are going to charge up and than discharge this capacitive energy in a coil to make it be used for next cycle with a second coupled inductor

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Re: Sequential high voltage distriuter
« Reply #9 on: July 20, 2020, 03:12:25 am »
Diferente electrolytes

Acid have h+ free ions
Base have oh- free ions

If we make each cell with an electrolyte perhaps we can find interesting result.

I want to test this put a cell with acid and apply positive to this side and other cell and have base and apply negative to it..

Doing this way on the electrode receiving the field na or the acid negative ion will be accumulated while the h+ and oh- will be forced into the other electrode..


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Re: Sequential high voltage distriuter
« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2020, 03:39:26 am »
This is what I'm talking about...
Is inspired in eccles fracture cell.. David haitin, Stanley meyer's  and horvath claims

One side is acid the other is basic... no diode between them for discharge of the ions..

Current is limited by the acrylic like in the fracture cell.. so should not resonate crazy unless we get the water resonance so called




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Re: Sequential high voltage distriuter
« Reply #11 on: July 20, 2020, 09:04:51 am »
Its a crazy theory....
But also an interesting one..

It means you must use a relais for switching, i supose

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Re: Sequential high voltage distriuter
« Reply #12 on: July 20, 2020, 09:40:57 am »
I'm kind of thinking that the ions will keep on existence when the acid or base ions are adsorbed or that they will rapidly become available.. explain you why I think that

When we add sodium hydroxide for example we get na+ ions and oh- formed.. if we take the electrode and charge to negative each ion of sodium that gets adsorbed will basically will make the inner electrode to form a voltage...

I went to the physics university and there the lessons about capacitor teach me that inside a charged hollow metal we have zero electric field

This mean that if you charge the inner electrodes they will have a electric field acting if you charge the outer electrode it will not be able to go inside unless you charge it.

David haitin patent mention another patent about its mechanism of discharging the ions while maintaining the electric fields.

A cylindrical capacitor like any capacitor will have zero field outside however if you put a voltage on the inside it will sum with the capacitor voltage.. this mean that that region in space can have the potential manipulated.. 

The main idea is to have free h+ ions in a region always positive where it is forced to be deflected against the other coming from a negative region..

If we charge the inside electrode and than the whole structure we may be able to create what david describe.. a structure that screen the electric fields and allow the ions to discharge.. maybe the discharge must be switched by a relay like you pointed.

Palladium and platinum should be used to allow the ions to adsorb making it available to form gas with no energy

The way its draw the inner electrode is charged than the whole cell outside shield is charged to force the potential of the region to become same chargd and repel the ion towards negative region..

The dielectric could be much better than acrylic.. I'm thinking of designing a nice experiment for it.

https://patents.google.com/patent/EP1586046A4/en

When I saw this patent I didn't realize how could be this shield structure.. but in the way I draw for me makes sense what he described.. because in the drawings of the patent the shield is not very well explained as is the secret behind all this patents

Also in fig one you can see there is two power supplies not only one.. and that is why I think I cracked it. Only one source would not be possible since the negative ions would be in a positive region so would not be able to go towards the counter ion to discharge never.. is like charging a cell with a diode in parallel and expect that the ions of the double layer will be shorted of we open circuit.
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Re: Sequential high voltage distriuter
« Reply #13 on: July 20, 2020, 18:01:15 pm »
Thinking again when we add sodium hydroxide we not adding only na+ we are adding also the oh_ ions  na oh

So if we momentarily take the sodium ion out if water naturally the other oh ion will not disappear but will be forced into the outer electrode since no electric field is stable inside a hollow metal

If the outer electrode have a internal coating of catalyst it will readily adsorb the oh ion making its electron available to flow in the circuit..

If the central electrode is ss the na will get the electron from it and readily it will be stealing a electron from another water molecule forming more ions because it will not get adsorbed into ss. It will only exchange charge so far as I understand..

It's a case if constant disequilibrium .. 

So basically it seems the sodium or potassium should work by taking electrons from the negative electrode and giving it to water molecule to form oh- ions again.. while the oh_ is not discharged it will reach equilibrium and stop the reaction..
So all we need to do is to discharge the catalyst so its able to get more and more charge to it...

The greatest thing I'm expecting from it is that as we can manipulate the potential in the region where the ions are being adsorbed perhaps we can add this potential to the ions current generating high power high current plus high voltage...




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Re: Sequential high voltage distriuter
« Reply #14 on: July 21, 2020, 04:18:50 am »
The acid of choice would be sulfuric acid and base potassium hydroxide

Both will not react with palladium platinum or stainless steel

I dont think we need very low or high ph I guess 4 and 10 is ok respectively for acid and basic baths

I think water with a neutral ph could work too but I think manipulating the ph could be useful