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Charging backwards concept
« Reply #48 on: August 04, 2020, 04:10:53 am »
Its more like charge by induction..

The electrodes from this point of view must be used to take charge out and not to put the charge in..

Doing this way the electrode will be positive having negative ions running thru it but at same time some of the counter ions are going to the same electrode however much less since the field is held elsewhere..

I mean we use a very high positive point to give positive charges this charges goes to the electrode but as the voltage is very high it will actually attract many more opposite charges


In the bottom of the drawing you see the diodes

The transformer in the middle apply charge from inside

When is positive it can only go left so it will drive positive ions towards the electrode

The coil will restrict the flow of amps maintaining high positive voltage at the interface of electrode and water.. 

So the positive field will attract negative ions making the electrode be at a negative potential in reference to the other although its indeed positive.. but since charge came from elsewhere it can be the negative relative to the charge input..

A resistive coil I think would be ideal since the idea is to take advantage of the charge separation that will exist on the coils... coils maintain the current flow in a direction.. but its resistive component will still show voltage in the same direction since current didnt change direction since Is unipolar be cause of the diodes..

Need to start testing.. hopefully this week I will put my hands on it




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Re: Sequential high voltage distriuter
« Reply #49 on: August 05, 2020, 09:44:53 am »
How to measure all this work, Fabio?

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plasma electron oscilation
« Reply #50 on: August 05, 2020, 10:18:54 am »
http://www.columbia.edu/~mem4/ap6101/Tonks_Langmuir_PR29.pdf

plasma electron oscillation mean that ions are considered as being so slow that wont move so only electrons can move

i think that if we put a magnetic field the electron orbit will forced to increase and so the frequency should reduce.. 

i think eccles and meyer talk about this

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Re: Sequential high voltage distriuter
« Reply #51 on: August 05, 2020, 10:32:18 am »
How to measure all this work, Fabio?

i think we need some manner to measure the power in, the frequency and the voltages and currents around the circuit.

if we are able to get some of the values some others may be deducible...

power input vs output

gas production rate etc

i will try to figure some way of detecting the electron oscillation too

i think if they found how to take this readings in 1929 we must be able to do it

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Re: Sequential high voltage distriuter
« Reply #52 on: August 06, 2020, 19:20:19 pm »
i took a look again at stan patents and

 the electron extraction circuit extract electrons from water and its alternated with laser pulses and the voltage applied to the cell...

this tell me today from the perspective im seeing it that the cell brings the cell to a negative voltage. and that its common ground

im thinking of geting some powerfull flyback transformers designed for co2 laser its rated around 150w 40kv


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the real importance of the real bifilar coil
« Reply #53 on: August 07, 2020, 17:04:25 pm »
a bifilar coil of wire when pulsed will show exact same voltage on both ends!

this mean they could be connected in parallel and no current would flow.

however connecting a bifilar coil of wire to a wfc actually create a current flow between the wires

this is because of the voltage fields

meyer used it to determine the required turns of wire to compensate this voltage to zero up the current

meyer patent say to increase the voltage potential you need to increase the coils set proportionaly

to be able to restrict the current the voltage of the outer electrode will need to be a little higher than the inner since the field that is moving the electrons around the circuit is coming from the inside electrode.

so basically the best way to go is to really get a bifilar coil and start pulsing until find resonance of the water electrons..

than manage to compensate the coils to limit the current to flow further as to consume less power

perhaps 2kv could be a nice start... also i would put a power resistor shorting the coils to test the voltage out of the current flow..   

honestly the bifilar coils i made in the past sucks...  i think we could work with some 36awg wire to start with some good resistance...

the resistance following this perspective limit the current but consume power... stan 3 coils is about using voltage to restrict the current so the coil work cold...

so this is the 3 coils in stan circuit... im thinking about the diode yet but according to the fracture cell it theory it would not be needed... puharich also didnt seem to use one.. it may be needed for somereason .. meyer talk about it allowing the circuit to collapse... if that is the case two vics would be needed to drive a cell set like the fracture cell... simply two vics connected to one cell set for example.. such as to have the ac  across it.

Or maybe meyer way didnt need ac..
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Re: Sequential high voltage distriuter
« Reply #54 on: August 08, 2020, 16:21:52 pm »
Good theory about the bif coil...
 Always room for better coils...hahahahaha

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Re: Sequential high voltage distriuter
« Reply #55 on: August 08, 2020, 19:19:28 pm »
I think what impeded me to make such bifilar coils was that I thought it would get burn

I have somente here a wire that is triple coated and I think is the best way to go for the bifilar coils

I think the coating must be able to resist at least 5kv or higher...
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