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Re: The final step towards running an engine on Hydroxy
« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2008, 21:00:13 pm »
Where do you think is best place to get the LEDs?

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Re: The final step towards running an engine on Hydroxy
« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2008, 21:02:10 pm »
These are the frequencys that I will use for this experiment:

656.46 nm  = red
486.27 nm  = blue
434.17 nm = blue-violet
410.29 nm = violet


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Re: The final step towards running an engine on Hydroxy
« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2008, 21:03:57 pm »
Where do you think is best place to get the LEDs?

I found already 2 types on www.farnell.com
Still looking for the other 2 types on the internet...

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Re: The final step towards running an engine on Hydroxy
« Reply #11 on: May 27, 2008, 23:52:30 pm »

  My info is not too good. The book was written in 1975, and updated in 1980.
 

 
  I will try to make this as simple as I can.
 
  I just read that this info is for simulated performance of a 350 cu./in Chevy Engine. The engine was run stationary.  Info for actual moving of a vehicle is based on this.

  The output was limited by backfire to 60 HP. In actuality, the engine would be run
   with water injection or exhaust gas recycle, therefore, the simulated performance is EXTREMELY conservative.

  There was a 351 cu/in Ford engine, installed in a hydrogen fueled Gremlin, at UCLA. it idled at 600-700 RPM,
   with an ESTIMATED hydrogen flow rate of 6.5 gms/min. I assume that's grams ???

  NOx emissions were 0.003 gm/mile and fuel consumption of 40 gms/mile.
   That is an approximate equivalent to a gasoline consumption of 25 mi/gallon.

  This info actually came from  Prof. A. Frank , University of Wisconsin. Project on "Increased Fuel Economy in Transportation Systems by Use of Energy Management. (DOT-OS-30112).


           Chevy 350 cu/in V-8 Engine

Engine speed==1500--timing 68°BTDC-Fuel flow 20.2 gm/mn.
                          2000--timing 64°BTDC-Fuel flow 21.2 gm/mn.
                          2500--timing 73°BTDC-Fuel flow 33.1 gm/mn.
                          3000--timing 68°BTDC-Fuel flow 42.2 gm/mn.
                          3500--timing 66°BTDC-Fuel flow 52.0 gm/mn.

  Spark Plug gap significantly narrower than for Gasoline.

  Doesn't look like very useful info, huh ???

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Re: The final step towards running an engine on Hydroxy
« Reply #12 on: May 28, 2008, 01:05:31 am »
Thanks for posting this, Harold,

What interesting is, that these people used a 68°BTDC to run their engine on hydrogen.
Other people are telling to run AT  TDC.
As you can see, we have to run more tests and see what we find out for timing.

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Re: The final step towards running an engine on Hydroxy
« Reply #13 on: May 28, 2008, 01:38:10 am »

 I probably should have added, this was a BOTTLE of Hydrogen, ran through an IMPCO LPG kit.  It had water injection from the carburetor, water from the gas tank. That is the diagram shown in the Booklet.

  Wish it was more informative.  :-\

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Re: The final step towards running an engine on Hydroxy
« Reply #14 on: May 28, 2008, 01:43:51 am »
My B20 engine is puring like a kitten at 2 deg. After TDC on pure H2, il look in on other timing too but makes more sense to me to hawe ignition as close to TDC as you can

Just a static timing since there is no carb when im runing pure H2

Need some more equipment before I can deliver consumption numbers

Il hawe some video ready when the new intake manifold is in place


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Re: The final step towards running an engine on Hydroxy
« Reply #15 on: May 28, 2008, 03:07:27 am »
stevie, Ive made some simple test with 10 violet LEDS at 400nm. I saw no visible difference in the gas nor when i attempted to ignite it...

I still think we should further test this by pulsing the LED's and using a lot of them.