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Re: HV and hydroxy
« Reply #16 on: October 11, 2008, 02:05:14 am »
This thread needed bumped back to the top.

Since there is no tubes or plates, what shape are the wires formed?

I've spent most of the day today wondering and searching the net for what would be better than concentric tubes to shape the electric field.

I downloaded the video off youtube of ddanvos(? spelling) before it was removed and have watched it a lot.  That setup was producing massive amounts of bubbles and the interesting thing was what looked like the bubbles weren't just rising to the top, some were circulating. 

I think he was using the spark gap for creating high voltage pulses instead of just a straight HV potential.

It also looks like the bubbles come from something surrounding the 2 electrode wires.  My belief is this is shaping the high voltage field.  The emanating voltage field is somewhat similar in theory to a magnetic field, so I believe it can be shaped.

I don't know how or if I can post the video, it is a flash video and the .flv extension isn't included in the allowed file types for attachments.  I will try and see if it works when I post this.  It didn't work.

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Re: HV and hydroxy
« Reply #17 on: October 11, 2008, 15:13:59 pm »
could someone please reupload the video you are talking about? I'd be very interested to see it.

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Re: HV and hydroxy
« Reply #18 on: October 11, 2008, 21:38:17 pm »
This thread needed bumped back to the top.

Since there is no tubes or plates, what shape are the wires formed?

I've spent most of the day today wondering and searching the net for what would be better than concentric tubes to shape the electric field.

I downloaded the video off youtube of ddanvos(? spelling) before it was removed and have watched it a lot.  That setup was producing massive amounts of bubbles and the interesting thing was what looked like the bubbles weren't just rising to the top, some were circulating. 

I think he was using the spark gap for creating high voltage pulses instead of just a straight HV potential.

It also looks like the bubbles come from something surrounding the 2 electrode wires.  My belief is this is shaping the high voltage field.  The emanating voltage field is somewhat similar in theory to a magnetic field, so I believe it can be shaped.

I don't know how or if I can post the video, it is a flash video and the .flv extension isn't included in the allowed file types for attachments.  I will try and see if it works when I post this.  It didn't work.

Mikemongo

Mike , i added the FLV format, to be uploaded to this forum.
At this moment, i allow files of maximum 20mb.
Is that enough for your file?

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Re: HV and hydroxy
« Reply #19 on: October 12, 2008, 02:25:11 am »
Thanks for adding the flv format to the attachments Stevie.  It's only about 1.5Mb

He didn't give much info in the comments other than it was powered by a neon transformer.  He said this was some work from a couple years ago .

Here's the video.

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Re: HV and hydroxy
« Reply #20 on: October 12, 2008, 18:24:14 pm »
Mikemongo,

I love the device in the video.  Where can we get more information about it so we can build it.  It looks like it has great promise.

Fiditti, this is the only info I've seen on this setup.

I downloaded it from youtube before it was removed by its creator.  I think he removed it because people were hounding him for info.

In the comments he said it was some older work and wouldn't reveal any details other than it was a neon transformer. 

I don't remember for sure if it was this video or one of his other videos, he said something about not revealing details due to a nondisclosure agreement and hoping to make enough money to put his kids through college.


Have ten or more tubes and you'd be able to run a tank.  Thanks.

This is why I'm so interested in HV dissociation, there is no current flow through the water and with proper design more "cells" or areas of dissociation can be added with no additional current draw from the power supply.  The only drawback is HV is a PIA to work with and this kind of voltage potential really doesn't like to be contained.

I think the HV power supply from a powder coat machine is an ideal source if it can be pulsed.  Depending on the brand, they make up to 100KV open circuit voltage, which is the same type of scenario we're looking at.  Unfortunately I haven't been able to find a source or datasheet on these supplies yet.

If anyone knows of a datasheet or source for these power supplies, please let me know.

I don't know if this type of setup is ideally suited for an automotive application,  but it for sure has potential for home heating, running a generator, bbq grill... our imagination is the limit.  Winter is just around the corner and our utility bills are going to be ugly.

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Re: HV and hydroxy
« Reply #21 on: October 12, 2008, 23:16:36 pm »
mikemongo,

Thanks for sharing with me.   Do you remember the name of the guy who posted the video?  It looks like he's got two separate alternating plazma arcs taking place in the water.  I'd sure like to figure out how he's doing this.  It's a great little cell with a lot of possibilities.

Now I remember, it's ddanvos68. 

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Re: HV and hydroxy
« Reply #22 on: October 13, 2008, 09:48:18 am »
I remember that that turkisch person blew up his whole house with hydrogen
and the goverment thought he was a terrorist...:-)

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Re: HV and hydroxy
« Reply #23 on: October 13, 2008, 16:30:31 pm »
Well, i do hope so.
Tad doesnt respond at all.

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