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Re: Coils mass amps restriction and applying e fields
« Reply #88 on: September 30, 2019, 20:18:43 pm »
Steve if we burn this amonia with with the air that has passed thru a electrical arc forming nitrate we should get some power out dont?

i think we could figure out how many amps we need to convert a predetermined amount of air into nitrate (consuming all the oxygen)

Oh i just remember the exhaust may have low oxygen so perhaps he reacted the gas with exhaust ? perhaps we could cold it up and filter with the membrane ?

i think when stan says he wants to prevent the water molecule to form he is saying that we may make it hard to it get the oxygen ?

how exited is nitrite just formed?

did you ever tried this amonia generation?



If I could chime in here just for a minute, ammonia burns with normal air.  Some co-generation companies power their large gensets with anhydrous ammonia, which is cheaper than petrol.  Also, ammonia is miscible with water; it will pull water into a flask as quickly as a vacuum.  How flammable ammonia water might be is an open question.
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Re: Coils mass amps restriction and applying e fields
« Reply #89 on: September 30, 2019, 21:46:17 pm »
Steve if we burn this amonia with with the air that has passed thru a electrical arc forming nitrate we should get some power out dont?

i think we could figure out how many amps we need to convert a predetermined amount of air into nitrate (consuming all the oxygen)

Oh i just remember the exhaust may have low oxygen so perhaps he reacted the gas with exhaust ? perhaps we could cold it up and filter with the membrane ?

i think when stan says he wants to prevent the water molecule to form he is saying that we may make it hard to it get the oxygen ?

how exited is nitrite just formed?

did you ever tried this amonia generation?

just found this video may help the epg stuf?

I have not tried this, but it is a low power way to gain a lot of power...

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Re: Coils mass amps restriction and applying e fields
« Reply #90 on: October 01, 2019, 02:46:57 am »
i think this reactor could be a combination of ac and dc.. . dc will pass thru a coil and a coil can generate high voltage to break the air insulation and allow dc to go
perhaps a good idea is to generate hydrogen and oxygen separated, use the oxygen to generate ozone and react the ozone with N2 to form nitrate
than take the hydrogen and react with nitrogen to make amonia of some sort...

the worst it can be is that we can create a dangerous explosion therefore it need to be small scale.

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« Reply #91 on: October 01, 2019, 12:26:27 pm »
About that epg.
I posted some time ago something about it.
It was about creating electricity with magnets.
So, the EPG ferrofluid is the core.
Meyer said that it better to move the charged core then the windings.

WHY??????

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« Reply #92 on: October 01, 2019, 15:07:07 pm »
I believe the epg creates oposing magnetic fields such that the magnetic fields oppose each others forming groups of 1inch long magnets.. dont ask me how hhaha

i would need to give some work on that and now im focus on the hydrogen but as soon as i start having pressure you can bet i will start making this gas pull something thru this tubes to get power back from the gas generation...

the pressure we start up with is what is going to give the power..

for example if you generate hydrogen at ambient pressure the flow times the pressure drop is what form the power...

but if we have a manner to maintain a high pressure at the generators side (bars of pressure) the gas would come out with a great quantity of movement... and could drive some magnets thru the tubes..

im not sure if that pump was not being driven in a manner that it would only oscillate back and forth the liquid! it was probably a prof of concept.. .

the main idea is to use solenoids to make the gas to move the groups of magnets thru the coils...

the copper tube works like a shorted turn and i believe the movent of magnets may induce a voltage across its lenght otherwise meyer would have used a single turn! and it was never a single turn!

i imagine two pressure sensors.. one at the oxygen side and one at the hydrogen side.. the hydrogen drives one epg the oxygen can drive a second smaller one... or a section...

the oxygen pressure is maintained equal to the hydrogen to avoid mixing of the gases in the cell which would result in an explosion at very high pressures..

the pressure at the output would be pretty much reduced and so the flow of the gas generated a power output,,

it reminds me the refrigeration cycle somehow where the epg sits where the capilar tube goes (pressure drop)

we could use even a piston but the efficiency wold be limited for example by the same problems a ice engine would Carnot efficiency

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_turboexpander-generator



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Re: Coils mass amps restriction and applying e fields
« Reply #93 on: October 01, 2019, 15:16:47 pm »
yesterday i finished the oxygen separator side casting mold... today i will try it once and see if it works to take the epoxy pieces out.. before i make the mold for the hydrogen side.

its a lot of work bros...

i spend another 400 reais to start making it.. and should be good to make 20 cells i hope.. the resins are not cheap.. luckly i worked with a plastic artist and i saw how they do it with a thin layer of silicon and plaster ..

it become a solid stuff.. i will maybe make a video teaching how to do it properly..

end of the day, plaster broken and some of the resin leaked, kind of the epoxy piece dint got the precision i wanted.. i need to make a better mold... got some experience from this first try, im trying to fix this first mold to see if at least i can get a few pieces out of it... the resin came out very bright however it will be a beautiful piece... hopefully hard enough to hold the pressure and chemicals

the problems with this first mold is that silicon were a bit thin... the plaster was also thin... i used 1 kg of plaster per side and 800g silicon of resin each side of the mold.. next time need to use at least 2kg of plaster on each side and the silicon maybe 1kg per mold side...

luckly still have 4kg of silicon just need to get some plaster for more molds but at least this is cheap... im thinking of having some metal structure at the plaster or maybe wood to prevent it from broke



 





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Re: Coils mass amps restriction and applying e fields
« Reply #94 on: October 02, 2019, 07:13:33 am »
i found this video where the guy show a design simpler than what im trying to do but perhaps effective. although im not sure how long will that ruber survive in the environments of acid and base..

the problems i see in his device is that water input will not be individual by cell so it has a kind of short thru the water that will not allow max efficiency...

the h2 separator im designing will have water input for the hydrogen side and oxygen side for each cell.. a lot of tubes... but this creates isolation between the cells

my goal with this monster is to be able to have enough h2 to run this 2,5kw gen setup i have.. so i must be able to input on it at least 2,5kw of power!

i think of doing that by using 20 or maybe more cells in series... arranged in a closed circle about in groups of 5 or 6 cells (actually a square) a turn whatever you want to call

i plan to have a resonant coil around and in the middle of this circle having at least 100v per turn! air core of course and a bunch of thick wire  about 30m long

this will induce in the water a voltage i hope to see some result out of it..

20 cells having 100 amps thru in series think will make the day..  i may have to use more than 2,5kw to get that of course.. but lets get started.

if i could have 50 cells of this i could use directly the wall electricity converted to dc

i did a test in the past with a coil made of a plastic tube filled with water and pulsed thru a transformer... i was able to collect at the end of the tubes high voltage but the current was not possible...it was such a long tube such a high resistance if i connected anything it would not show the voltage anymore..

there is a post about it somewhere.. but it may have proved a point... if we want to use water as the electron source perhaps we just need to add electromagnetic fields and extract the current from it instead of inserting the current

if water is stimulated to conduct in a region where you get electromagnetic fields it may be modulated

the post is in my project section called water coil!




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Re: Coils mass amps restriction and applying e fields
« Reply #95 on: October 02, 2019, 19:37:10 pm »
here two videos i made to kind of show whats going on

this is the oxygen side... now i will make also the hydrogen side mold and try to get this cells assembled soon..



aparently the resin time of cure is more dependent on temperature than i imagined... as the silicon is not very uniform and as the plaste was not very dry the lower ┬┤part took less heat and so also took more time to hardening .... i guess also the catalyst may have rise a little too as it was maybe not so very well mixed..

next time i will mix it two times and maybe add little bit more...