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Re: Coils mass amps restriction and applying e fields
« Reply #8 on: August 27, 2019, 18:43:05 pm »
Im thinking over and over and perhaps at least two cells runing on resoance will be required each with its own series circuit but sharing a dual isolated dc power supply... This could be two baterries one charged one less charged the idea is each time one charge the other than reverse ...


Im trying to get my life back and active i have just got rid of some worms that was giving me lots of pain and lack of energy and sleep for perhaps years... And geting my house organized, my small business going and bills paid.. Im building some shelfs to organize my prototypes and tools and hopefully soon will be able to be back prototyping and testing more.

Im puting together a website to sell a product i created for recycling thermal energy from air conditioning and refrigerators for use as hot water...

Www.energycycle.com.br its multilanguage and is not yet published and under construction ....

The price will be 500 dollars pluss shipping

Hope you like it bros

I would like to make a french a german and japonese language too if anyone want to help make me know.

Im very short on money and selling beer at street to be able to live and develop all this...  If anyone is willing to help me with funds i thank you a lot ... Im sure it will be a boom on sales...

My prototype already works and has a app to control and show how much you save in energy.  Its instaled on your refrigerator or air conditioning as a small tuning modification... It works better and also reduce the power consumption since the heat exchange is much more efficient.

I need to make a drawing design to make the box of it and make the manuals of instalation.

Who wants to be part of it?

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Re: Coils mass amps restriction and applying e fields
« Reply #9 on: August 28, 2019, 09:12:10 am »
Hi Fabio,

Its good to have you back here. It seems to me that you are having a rough time, surviving....
Where can people donate, if they want to?

About the products you want to market, can you show a bit more? You want to wrap some pipes around the pipes of  the airco,s?

The website is very slow, btw.
I can offer you free space and hosting on my webserver, if you want....

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« Reply #10 on: August 28, 2019, 10:13:37 am »
Thanks a lot bro! Im going to make a video showing the functionality... I made a convertion box it has sensors and a pump and a heat exchanger to transport the heat to water.. The instalation is done by taking the gas out of the system, make a interruption on the high pressure linde than soldering my device on it and its done. It detects the heat and turn on the pump to circulate the water.. Very simple system but i made a app that calculate the energy you saved in the last month and you can set up the parameters you want, like the desired temperature you want your water.

The good thing about it is that it takes all the eleectrical energy you already spend for refrigerating plus all the heat the system woud be throwing away... The cop can be up to 3 or 4.  Isnt this amazing?

For donations i still have my bringpowertothepeople@gmail.com or sebosfato@gmail.com accounts on paypal

I was planing to make a kind of pre sale to be able to get the money to make the first professional production of the prototype..  My prototype is here more thab one year working with no leaks although i didnt turned on so many times because the prototype i build was just for demo...

I used a 250 liter water tank as example and the system was a chiller that would freeze about 30 liters of water.. Bringing the temp on reservoir easily to 37C

The reservoir was not insulated and leak heat a lot... Also the chiller has a limited energy available since when it freezes no more energy is available to heat other than the electrical going in ... Big deal anyway the cop will be greater than 1!

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« Reply #11 on: August 28, 2019, 10:41:35 am »
Thanks a lot bro! Im going to make a video showing the functionality... I made a convertion box it has sensors and a pump and a heat exchanger to transport the heat to water.. The instalation is done by taking the gas out of the system, make a interruption on the high pressure linde than soldering my device on it and its done. It detects the heat and turn on the pump to circulate the water.. Very simple system but i made a app that calculate the energy you saved in the last month and you can set up the parameters you want, like the desired temperature you want your water.

The good thing about it is that it takes all the eleectrical energy you already spend for refrigerating plus all the heat the system woud be throwing away... The cop can be up to 3 or 4.  Isnt this amazing?

For donations i still have my bringpowertothepeople@gmail.com or sebosfato@gmail.com accounts on paypal

I was planing to make a kind of pre sale to be able to get the money to make the first professional production of the prototype..  My prototype is here more thab one year working with no leaks although i didnt turned on so many times because the prototype i build was just for demo...

I used a 250 liter water tank as example and the system was a chiller that would freeze about 30 liters of water.. Bringing the temp on reservoir easily to 37C

The reservoir was not insulated and leak heat a lot... Also the chiller has a limited energy available since when it freezes no more energy is available to heat other than the electrical going in ... Big deal anyway the cop will be greater than 1!

I think it is a great idea to use th epower already spend....
I have seen computer datacentres using the heat from all their servers to warm up houses.
I am looking forward to some sort of demo video ;-)

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« Reply #12 on: August 28, 2019, 10:44:06 am »
The site im building using the divi theme.. I got for one year and the host i got for one year at mochahost hoping is not too bad... I think the site is slow because is not using cache plugin yet because im still building for this next week s.. With the cache plugin it sometimes takes some time to update changes so i decided to leave off for now....  Anyhelp you can give me on that i really thank bro. I know very few about sites...

Im open to ideas and getting partnershipps for this. I think this can be a good source for money for boosting up our meyer research.


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Re: Coils mass amps restriction and applying e fields
« Reply #13 on: August 28, 2019, 10:47:53 am »
Thanks a lot bro! Im going to make a video showing the functionality... I made a convertion box it has sensors and a pump and a heat exchanger to transport the heat to water.. The instalation is done by taking the gas out of the system, make a interruption on the high pressure linde than soldering my device on it and its done. It detects the heat and turn on the pump to circulate the water.. Very simple system but i made a app that calculate the energy you saved in the last month and you can set up the parameters you want, like the desired temperature you want your water.

The good thing about it is that it takes all the eleectrical energy you already spend for refrigerating plus all the heat the system woud be throwing away... The cop can be up to 3 or 4.  Isnt this amazing?

For donations i still have my bringpowertothepeople@gmail.com or sebosfato@gmail.com accounts on paypal

I was planing to make a kind of pre sale to be able to get the money to make the first professional production of the prototype..  My prototype is here more thab one year working with no leaks although i didnt turned on so many times because the prototype i build was just for demo...

I used a 250 liter water tank as example and the system was a chiller that would freeze about 30 liters of water.. Bringing the temp on reservoir easily to 37C

The reservoir was not insulated and leak heat a lot... Also the chiller has a limited energy available since when it freezes no more energy is available to heat other than the electrical going in ... Big deal anyway the cop will be greater than 1!

I think it is a great idea to use th epower already spend....
I have seen computer datacentres using the heat from all their servers to warm up houses.
I am looking forward to some sort of demo video ;-)

After few months i build it i found in finland they are already using this tech in datacenters like you said. This brough me a little dowb because i though it could not be patent however i realized that anyway it can be used on big comercial buildings and many other aplications ... It directs the heat and all the heat spend electrically is also converted.. Only a small part is lost with this system.. The compressore work less because heat is more rapidly exchanged too

I belive in one year the investment is returned for the homeuser for how much you save in energy...
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« Reply #14 on: August 30, 2019, 07:12:49 am »
Stan talks about the chokes being there for tune to the dielectric properties of water...

Resonance Q factor depends on the relation of resistance to the reactance

Applying 0.3v into a 0.1ohm lcr circuit would give 3amp

The voltage across the inductor or capacitor will depend on the reactance... If the reactance is 1 ohm than you woukd have 3 volt across capacitor and inductor...

The higher a capacitance the lower will be the reactance

The water cell kind of is a capacitance too but is not only that as the ions inside can move and thereto behave conpletely different than a normal capacitor

When ion moves is like a current flowing so is like the capacitor would seem like had a bigger capacity since for every charge you put in there will be an ion that will go there to screen it...

The fact is if you apply 0.3 v into a 0.1ohm load it will consume 1 watt... However this makes 3 v across the cell at resoance so we can have a gain in voltage while applyinh amps at a lower energy level..

I think those figures with coils having 18 turns was actually the real deal for working with stainless steel on water... The high voltage system may have had some secret components we will never see.

Why i think there is going to be few turns needed?

Well to have the ability of having low xl at 5khz you need the coil to have very small inductance

For a 1xl at 5khz it would have to be 31uh and coincidentaly the capacito also need to be 31uf. This happened becaus xl is 1 and is unity

Clarity of mind

The capacitor would have to be smaller than the coil according to stan... The capacitance i measured with some equipment with very pure water was starting from very low less tha 1nf with deionized water this is 31thousand times smaller than the numer i just calculated... However adding an electrolyte to the water will increase the capacitance.... And at a certain concentration will have an increased value... Specially using the cells in parallel...

Is possible to determine matematicaly but im not this guy yet...

I know from work i did that we can increase the capacitance up to 3000 times or even 100000 times depending on the doping you have on the dielectric..  Basically having metal dispersed on water is like creating small microcapacitors that adds up

The higher the count of microcapacitors the higher will be the overal capacitance... So the higher is the concentration the higher capacitance we have

What im saying is that we can tune to the dielectric properties of water by changing the circuit parameters or we can start with pure water and simply change its properties to meet the circuit parameters

Sodium hydroxyde is more lighter than potassium so the resonance would be higher frequency i guess for same concentration...



 






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Re: Coils mass amps restriction and applying e fields
« Reply #15 on: August 30, 2019, 07:20:24 am »
The definition of capacitance is one faraday = 1 amp flow for 1 sec would raise the voltage by 1v

1F=1a*1s/1v

A coil having 18 turns and 6 cm long 1 inch diameter should give 31uh or so
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