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the opposite of the energy disappear paradox
« Reply #72 on: September 18, 2019, 14:12:15 pm »
when we charge one capacitor and discharge into another of the same size half the energy disappear since voltages become half of it was and the capacitance double being in parallel

i wonder if we could manage to charge 10 capacitors in parallel and discharge them in series what would happen

voltage would be multiplied 10 times, charge would be the same, capacitance is 10 times smaller

question is if we increase voltage 10 times and reduce capacitance 10 times how much energy you gain? or you gain nothing?

for example you have 10x 1F capacitors charged in parallel this would give 100 coulombs giving 500 Joules of energy stored.. if you take this 10 capacitors and put them in series it will form a 0.1F capacitor so the energy actually remain constant the only gain is the voltage

the fact that adding in parallel multiply and adding in series divides make it also a square function that's why energy is conserved..





actually the gain is zero because the voltage within each capacitor didn't change...

the higher is a capacitance the lower is the energy required to take electrons from one plate and put at the other

if we had a way to transfer the charge from each cap to the smallest form of it it would amplify the energy but how ?



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Re: Coils mass amps restriction and applying e fields
« Reply #73 on: September 24, 2019, 15:40:05 pm »
work in progress

im doing the first silicon molds for the hydrogen cell separators, if all goes well epoxy casting start today...


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Magnetic Electrolyte
« Reply #74 on: September 24, 2019, 15:57:45 pm »
i was thinking about how to get the water to hold a charge, and i thought  of if would be possible that if the electrode were magnetic (like dan danfor kind said it needed to be) than if we get other ions that can be atracted by a magnet or that can be converted in the process and become magnetic it would have different forces acting on it when it gain or loose an electron

for example cobalt, nickel, iron, and even rare earth components

perhapĀ“s we should melt some neodimium magnets and dig into that? some acid?

or just get the salts?

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New Strange Discovery! read it now!!!!
« Reply #75 on: September 26, 2019, 08:11:13 am »
well today i did some tests with old bateries, i was fixing a couple of no breaks and the batteries were dead.. i decided to open it and add 0ppm water to it and see what happen

it happens that the batteries came back to life one better than the other...

in the attempt to charge them i applied overvoltage to it several times..

well i was doing some last tests shorting the battery that was not so good and i noticed that it started to make noise

the battery was also generating hydrogen probably in a shorted cell that was already intriguing me

but than when i shorted the cell i noticed that there was a potential difference build (lika a charged capacitor) 60v on the multimeter and it started to drop til reach 22v

i couldnt repeat the 60v thing... but finaly i got something real strange to happen!!!!

actually two things

i discovered that batteries have a kind of electrostatic potential associated to it.. i have two batteries siting on a insulating wood floor and it shows the sum of the potential of them connecting the multimeter to the oposite sides of it without the connection between the batteries

im not sure but it seems that if my power supply is on the nois is higher even if it is not closing the circuit !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i may be wrooooong or high

well guys im using 12v 7a batteries just playing around.. i kind of found some electrostatic behavior definitely

i will try more about it

 8) ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???


well disconnecting the dc source from line the magic dc disapear =(

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that kind of feeling
« Reply #76 on: September 26, 2019, 08:13:27 am »
i had that kind of feeling that stan was correct assuming voltage potential can do work!

if it can move the voltmeter with no connection what else can it do

i tried doing some more tests today... well i dont know what happen yesterday.. i did not succeed repeating the 60v charge,...

one thing i noticed is that my dc source gets charged to 20v even with it disconnected from ac line but i think this is because the on off button that has a neon light.. so it kind of pass the voltage a little...

my button is arranged as to turn on the light when i raise the variac...

by the way this dc source is a 500w variac 0-250v (it burned at around 220 so its not turning completely) !  connected to a 800w 250v in step down toroid that has many taps out (i had it made for me in the times of fat cows) than theres a 50amp fwbr and a 10mf capacitor...



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Re: New Strange Discovery! read it now!!!!
« Reply #77 on: September 27, 2019, 22:27:50 pm »
well today i did some tests with old bateries, i was fixing a couple of no breaks and the batteries were dead.. i decided to open it and add 0ppm water to it and see what happen

it happens that the batteries came back to life one better than the other...

in the attempt to charge them i applied overvoltage to it several times..

well i was doing some last tests shorting the battery that was not so good and i noticed that it started to make noise

the battery was also generating hydrogen probably in a shorted cell that was already intriguing me

but than when i shorted the cell i noticed that there was a potential difference build (lika a charged capacitor) 60v on the multimeter and it started to drop til reach 22v

i couldnt repeat the 60v thing... but finaly i got something real strange to happen!!!!

actually two things

i discovered that batteries have a kind of electrostatic potential associated to it.. i have two batteries siting on a insulating wood floor and it shows the sum of the potential of them connecting the multimeter to the oposite sides of it without the connection between the batteries

im not sure but it seems that if my power supply is on the nois is higher even if it is not closing the circuit !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i may be wrooooong or high

well guys im using 12v 7a batteries just playing around.. i kind of found some electrostatic behavior definitely

i will try more about it

 8) ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???


well disconnecting the dc source from line the magic dc disapear =(


DRAWING?

2 batteries on the floor and the meter on both batteries?

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Re: Coils mass amps restriction and applying e fields
« Reply #78 on: September 28, 2019, 04:33:54 am »
I came up with a circuit where it generates an ac resonance on cois and at water only dc current can flow and each pulse recharge the dc source partialy... 

3 coils of same lenght form primary and two chokes so the chokes have twice the dc voltage when sumed ... Perhaps it could also be step down dow to 3:1 or maybe 5:1 this will change the frequency of the dischare pulse... During pulse on the chokes charge the cell and the batery and durinh discharge the cell and dc source receives again another pulse..

I designed a simple regenerative clamp too to get rid of the primary energy

Not enough time and too much for me to read! I really like this circuit, looks like something I would build. I have one similare to it, I will post it later if I get the time.

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Re: Coils mass amps restriction and applying e fields
« Reply #79 on: September 28, 2019, 04:35:13 am »
I am very sorry to ask, but Have you guys had any success here in raising voltage and restricting any amp flow? I am very sorry my time is limited to one or 2 days out of every other weekend. Im sorry I dont have time to read everything. Please understand.