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electrical connection missing piece
« Reply #136 on: October 24, 2019, 03:56:26 am »
hey

im working at the electrical connectors of my 11 resonant cell prototype..

i actually found a way to make it the best way possible...

im making 11 pieces of 304 ss having 3.9mm diameter and 5mm long and 11 having 8mm long

this way the spring will sit inside the connector and wont have high current flow thru it

it will also be protected from corrosion a bit so i will cut the springs to 5mm

and now it should be a proper electrical connector

the cell number 8 still a bit of a problem... i tested droping the electric connector i made manually for it into sulfuric acid and it kind of seems that will not corrode the super glue cianoacrilate too fast.. think will be usable

im trying to figure a way to use the same electrical connector in each cell to try to maintain the same impedance... not sure how much would change a single slightly different connector






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Re: Coils mass amps restriction and applying e fields
« Reply #137 on: October 24, 2019, 19:48:49 pm »

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Re: Coils mass amps restriction and applying e fields
« Reply #138 on: October 25, 2019, 00:41:11 am »
What i can tell is that im gona make it work!
Here we have some people not just me and steve and our ideas are connected around the globe and this is so powerful.

I know you may have tried realy hard and its very disapointing to see tens of thousands of moneys and nothing haopens...i did too . but im sure there is still things didnt tried and some that i could have try again better now that i have more knowlege..

I went to physics university to learn the language of science to understand and be able to interpret and build what stan did... It took many years.. Many deceptions and still nothing happen but as you see in this video we are still trying to make some progress.. No one here ever claimed anything serious anywhere so far as i knowm...

Perhaps im stupid yes to persist in the idea of trying it but perhaps than i can still learn something else.

I learned a lot in the way.. This forum hosted this progress and inspired it thats why i respect all the work everyone did and does and steve do to maintain all this space!



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Re: Coils mass amps restriction and applying e fields
« Reply #139 on: October 28, 2019, 07:36:10 am »

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11 cell connectors
« Reply #140 on: October 29, 2019, 04:33:01 am »
A little update.. I tested the resistance of the connectors and is very low now! After all this tiny pieces of metal maybe were lost in stan junk... But it makes a very big diference... I found that a spring with 6mm long inside the connector plus a 3.8mm diameter 6mm long ss rod for the outer electrode are ideal and 8mm for the inner electrode connectors... I found that it can have a smal angle on the side that contact the spring, because it makes the spring force the rod in the wall of the hole improoving the contact!
The tip could have also an angle ... Basicaly doing it with low precision is a good idea..

Now im confident to push more than 10 amps thru this cells...

I noticed my cell has a wrong desing in the water input position ... Mine is alligned with cell n 4 and it actually made me think...

If we apply voltage in series there is going to be movement of ions...

Im thinking if perhaps there was some sort of secret in this botton part!

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Re: Coils mass amps restriction and applying e fields
« Reply #141 on: October 29, 2019, 19:46:23 pm »
i used a little cheap aquarium waterpump to move the gas from the plates and that was hooked up to a variable powersupply.
That way i was able to tune the cell in a maximum gas output...

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« Reply #142 on: October 30, 2019, 15:07:27 pm »
thanks for the idea Steve... i was thinking about the flow of water indeed but i was thinking about how to take advantage of the mechanical energy and try to convert to gas somehow directly...

questioning myself i was thinking about the kelvin water dropper.. recently i found that it need salt water to proper operate... and is probably the reason why the tests i did in the past failed in producing any voltage..

the kelvin water dropper works by a mechanism that is formed by the arrangement of the fields and collectors of charge but what drives it is gravity force! so the energy it can generate is related to the flow of water and the gravity force that pull the charged ions against the collector to keep increasing the charge.. .

im thinking that the 11 cells must be divided into two sets of 11 electrode each somehow and apply a voltage that wont short thru the channel... ill post a drawing

im not sure yet how but somehow we could try to replicate the kelvin water dropper in a manner that it generates hydrogen and oxygen by conversion of mechanical force only! applying only few power in electrical form just to start it..




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« Reply #143 on: October 30, 2019, 19:55:50 pm »
Im thinking abou the 11 cell water input and i guess it should have a T just before the input such as to allow the like charged ions to be directed into a ss tube to generate voltage.... Basically the water channel will behave like a magnet that attract ions of the oposite polarity but repel the ions with same polarity so this ions must go elsewhere! The 11 cell is pretty much that generator in the sales manual! He even say that a negative can be obtained... Im basing this thesis in the water dropper theory that mechanical energy will be converted. Im guessing that there will be an equilibrium voltage where it will generate most current power... Above or below wont work

The idea is to induce current by forcing the ions in oposite direction by mechanical action pump

Perhaps the microbubbles can get ionized and further act on this...


The water dropper normaly generate a high voltage very low current but if the system is made to discharge at a certain level is possible to nake the distances smaller and improve the design... I was thinking for exsmpl of a injector and pump to send packets of water at high speed low vaccum to get a kind of gain in power