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Re: Retry N1001
« Reply #288 on: January 17, 2019, 13:33:47 pm »
stan talk about using 430 ss material for the wires... i was talking about this... this is magnetic wire not wire for magnets like copper aluminum magnet wire.. when we call it magnetic is because it have iron and is attracted to magnets without current flow..

for example if you have 1000v 1 amp is 1000 watts output.. if the coil has 100 ohms for example it will consume 100 watts to conduct such current to the load.. but lets say the reaction this current causes is different on the input transformer.. we must measure it.. and come to a conclusion ...

I think so far (talking about me if anyone feel likewise is a mere coincidence) that i´m not sure if i´m being so much efficient in trying to discover this technology, since i came back to brasil is being not so easy to live and have money to the project all the time and some tests i started to construct and most didnt even tested.... i decided to study physics to understand the language of science but still i´m not a very organized person to keep all my info and details.. i´m not 20 years old anymore and my memory is not the same too.. thats why sometimes i write my ideas here and some of the details of what i´m doing.. i´m sharing with you and with myself on the future that dont remember well what did.
motivation is something that makes the project go on without all everything.. i still have some motivation.. but i fell i still need to improve my way of doing the tests and fell like most of us should too...
to keep up the motivation our discussions here are important to me because it keeps my mind awake and active. I feel like if i had some one to help keep the ideas going on before i change them i could have more chance of doing it better.

sorry to tell you this wish i could tell you i´m full of money and time and focus to do tests and i´m  the most talented and organized person to deal with it, but so far reality is proving me wrong.. my wish is to make the tests the best i can so i can sleep at night.. its being a few years i sleep only 3 or 4 hours for night.. all this makes me anxious..

My critics first to my self is on how hell i´m going to measure and take the most of this info to my benefit.. like doing graphs to understand better... tables... drawings.. i do it mostly but  i left behind many stuff that i could have done to be sure of what didnt work...

for example the ss wire how to test it?

i would construct a step up transformer and connect a load to it and measure the load power output and the power input of the transformer.. measure if there is some phase difference between load and input power etc..

calculate the power dissipated on each coil, nucleus etc,..

i think i´m going to asks sometimes  about any ideas on how to get tested differently..


what about you what would you do? to make sure it work or why it didnt?







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« Reply #289 on: January 18, 2019, 04:25:31 am »
sorry about writing too much, after all i recognize i put my life in second plane for a long time since i started this research and this is one of the best things i could do to try to do something for the humanity but being alone here in brazil without much support and no one believing in anything hurts the soul a bit too...

after i wrote all this today i took a coffee and it gave me a huge energy it made me organize my workshop a few and few and regain confidence and hope.

i have look into some of my prototypes and most of my tools...



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« Reply #290 on: January 18, 2019, 06:49:29 am »
I also use the forum as storage of ideas and knowledge.
And yes. We probably spent too much time on these subjects. So just keep on going with it ONLY when it provides you fun and knowledge...
Thats why i am still here.
Maybe i can even make a difference for my childrens future...

Hang in there, Fabio.

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« Reply #291 on: January 18, 2019, 15:54:57 pm »
I know you are going to bro!

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i did some crazy tests today... i made the water to create arcs on the surface tension and i think i got a very fast oxygen generation on reducing the anode contact with water ].,.. i will make a video about it ...

the oxygen rate of evolution surprised me makes big bubbles instantly!

using around 60 watts on water 120v ... above 70 it start to arc at the input of the variac 250w going ... the variac is connected to the cell thru a 2:1 stepdown and full wave bridge and 3,3mf capacitor in parallel...

the cathode is a ss tube that has being palladized and the anode barelly touch water...the ss rod from the tube cell made a dramatic effect here too hope to get it on video ... lots of heat too

water has some 1/4 molar of potassium hydroxide plus some potassium nitrate

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« Reply #293 on: January 20, 2019, 16:38:40 pm »
Quote  “for example if you have 1000v 1 amp is 1000 watts output.. if the coil has 100 ohms for example it will consume 100 watts to conduct such current to the load.. but lets say the reaction this current causes is different on the input transformer.. we must measure it.. and come to a conclusion ...”

I think that you will have to learn a bit more about coils,  a 1,000v across a coil   would depend on a number of things    first, DC resistance that you said was 100ohms,  then you will need its reactance XL, is it DC power r AC power I assumed that you meant that it was DC 1,000V and the coil had a DC resistance of 100ohms.
 Now you will need the inductance of the coil.  Then you can put the inductance over the resistance to give you the time content T , then you can construct a curve to the 5T.
Once fully at the 5T period the coil will then pass full current,   1,000/100 = 10amps  this then results in 1,000 x 100 = 10,000watts.

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« Reply #294 on: January 21, 2019, 16:14:04 pm »
i didnt understood what you mean with the 5 time period...

inductance is Henrie and is a kind of linear relationship with time being 1 henrie = 1volt applied for 1 second / raise the current to 1 amp 1H = volts*second/amps

if you need to get faster just reduce the inductance....

i was meaning that if you have for example a load of  900W 900ohm 1 amp and your coils consume 100W 100ohm only dissipating heat at the coil because of its resistance..the idea is that the reaction magnetic field caused to oppose the initial field could be reduced.. just hipotesis...you are correct that i´m not considering the reactance of the coil i was only looking at the dc resistance.;.

with the reactance it gets more complicated but for example it had 100ohm reactance 100 ohm resistance dc and load 200ohms and we have 400 volts applied... the load is going to receive around 200volts 1 amp? right? so is a 200 watt load... 100 watts are being lost at the coil and the reactance accumulate power that is used in the next cycle so you spend literaly 300 watts

please correct me if i´m wrong

 


 

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« Reply #295 on: January 21, 2019, 19:03:15 pm »
i´m starting to think that temperature may be one big factor in hydrogen gas on demand production... after all electrolysis is an endothermic process and so adding heat to it lower the needed energy to achieve separation ..

maybe if its possible to generate the hydrogen and oxygen separetely in a vessel at high temperature and pressure to not allow to boil... than the energy of the pressurized gas can run turbines that convert the pressure and temperature to electricity that is feedback into the system...

there is a lot of energy available here to catch because it only limited to the pressure you can achieve and flow of gas.. it would allow generation of high amount of hydrogen at cheap cost as its regenerating its own electricity from the pressure..

we know that temperature is pure vibration and the higher is the vibration amplitude more far away and close together the base components of matter get... everything hot emits infrared... mirrored surfaces form a cavity ... however water have some different frequencies happening at the same time,

les say we want to produce 1,1kg of hydrogen per hour and that you consume 100w per mole of hydrogen... around 500 moles to get 1kg  so you need around 55kw of consume per hour...

if you take this 1,1kg from around 10 liters of water you have 10kg of mass that is going to be turned into gas expansion plus of course the evaporated water from the heat so lets say in one hour we also evaporate another 10 liters of water....

so you have a mass of 20kg to flow in one hour at the pressure you allow it to get

here is where it gets interesting because is a matter of charging the system up and when it reach the required pressure it will be able to generate its own power or perhaps part of it or maybe even more... depends only on the pressure you allow it to get...

stan has a patent on it called the hydrogen electrical generator or something like..

so here he is not worried about efficiency so much only about making lot of gas with small electrodes and use the product as source of energy

how much power you can generate with 20kg for example...

E=m*g*h so if you would use gravity you could have 200joule for each meter of high

if we use speed it get interesting

E=m*v^2/2
so if the speed is very high (pressurized gas coming out) the energy is high

so 20 kg times a speed of say 100m/s is 100kJ that is equivalent to 27w in one hour but if you increase this speed say 1000m/s you have now 2,777 kw of power... it increase with the square of the velocity of the gas... so you can simply add more mass or more pressure to increase the power... increasing to 5000m/s you overcome the 55kw and theres 15kw spare and we could go further as it only depends on the turbine configuration..

this is kind of rocket science but a turbine would work perfectly to get this energy efficiently converted

water expand 1800 times when converted to vapor... and some more when converted to hydrogen and oxygen but the vapor contract when get cold to reform water and hydrogen cant do this nor oxygen...



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