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Re: 6watts and 8 liters HHO per minute...........
« Reply #80 on: May 15, 2018, 19:37:55 pm »
Good work, Steve.  I tried it with my 12kV NST and I'm also getting bubbles, a significant amount.  The cell is a couple of tapered restaurant sauce cups.  I have a 5/16" spark gap with a DIY nano Farad cap.  300 W on the primary, but, with the diode, it's perhaps only half the rated value.  edit: And I'm using well water.

With this many Watts, I'm wondering about steam?

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« Reply #81 on: May 15, 2018, 20:04:00 pm »
I let it run for a little while and there is some small amount of condensation inside the neck of the plastic bottle, but none on the lid.  Bubbles breaking the surface may be spraying upwards.  The effect seems to work better with no cap in the secondary circuit, just the spark gap.  And the bubbles do blast when touched with a flame.

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Re: 6watts and 8 liters HHO per minute...........
« Reply #82 on: May 15, 2018, 20:14:24 pm »
sorry to maybe go off topic... but actually i´m trying to think the theory first so we dont have to  keep doing things wrong... of course is just theory and any part could be wrong  however its being so many years thinking about this that it apear to me all glues up
well first think i would look is how precise is my frequency from the pll... i remember it had lot of variance so is not a good to go

i think i will need to design the pll to have a very narrow range to get such needed precision....remember 100THZ well this is sort of the precision we need in phase.. 


nice test Steve... do you have used the same diagram you show on the first page? how is the waveform looking like? its pure water? what is the current going on water?

i have done tests with a spark gap... but only small stream of gas came out at that time we were following those Ronnies ideas.. i think he was kind of on it for real although he didnt help any of us to get there hopefully i took the time to understand what they teach me and i´m thankful  for them to have share some with me that lead me to get some conclusions...

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Re: 6watts and 8 liters HHO per minute...........
« Reply #83 on: May 15, 2018, 20:19:24 pm »
Good work, Steve.  I tried it with my 12kV NST and I'm also getting bubbles, a significant amount.  The cell is a couple of tapered restaurant sauce cups.  I have a 5/16" spark gap with a DIY nano Farad cap.  300 W on the primary, but, with the diode, it's perhaps only half the rated value.  edit: And I'm using well water.

With this many Watts, I'm wondering about steam?

Thanks, Tek,

I also use my own well water.
My sparkplug ran so hot that the tip was melting.
I have not measured the consumed amps yet, but the power sucked by the sparkplug must be something.
Or it is so hot because of some sort of resonance between the cap and the seconairy
It is clear that the load on the secondairy is effecting the primary with the cell .....
At least i have something to put my brains around for the moment. ;D




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Re: 6watts and 8 liters HHO per minute...........
« Reply #84 on: May 15, 2018, 20:22:08 pm »
The only difference with Tinman's setup is the frequency i am using.
I ll guess with higher frequencys, it might look a bit different.
Still, it is funny to see the cell producing gas when the sparkplug goes firing and doesnt produce gas when the sparkgap is off

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Re: 6watts and 8 liters HHO per minute...........
« Reply #85 on: May 15, 2018, 20:27:51 pm »
As stated, my sparkplug melts....really really hot as hell.
So, my test windows is very small.
I tried more cells in parallel, but then no gas is produced during sparking.
It only works for me with just 1 Meyer tubes set, we all know.
If i use a smaller capacitor in serie with the sparkplug of 0.82uF, it doesnt work either.

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Re: 6watts and 8 liters HHO per minute...........
« Reply #86 on: May 15, 2018, 20:41:39 pm »
Maybe I know why you are getting the gas only when it sparks ..  when it sparks it reduces the impedance and allow current to flow thru the mot coil otherwise the coil holds the current too much ...

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Re: 6watts and 8 liters HHO per minute...........
« Reply #87 on: May 15, 2018, 21:33:57 pm »
Maybe I know why you are getting the gas only when it sparks ..  when it sparks it reduces the impedance and allow current to flow thru the mot coil otherwise the coil holds the current too much ...
How does that work? The primary coil is around 2 ohms.

Another question: If i want to measure the amps at the cell, i must use a dc amp meter, right?
Why do i measure 0.01 amps and see a spark on the plug and lots of gas out of the cell?
I also have to pulse the input a bit more and i see even more gas..... ::) ::)
What is going on here?