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Re: 6watts and 8 liters HHO per minute...........
« Reply #216 on: December 11, 2018, 21:16:00 pm »
Timeshell the LC circuit is supposed to be between one choke and the "capacitor" or the sum of the coils (mutual inductance) and the "capacitor"?

Good question.

Treat each side of the WFC like it's its own capacitor.

So, if you measure your WFC (or calculate; measuring it should give you a similar result) one way, let's say it gives you 25pF.   When you reverse the meter leads, it should give you a different result, such as 30pF.  So, as an example, to have a frequency of 5kHz on both sides, the side that measures 25pF would need a coil of 40.528H and the side of 30pF would need a coil of 33.774H.

This doesn't include the secondary which you will also need.

BUT, there is more to it than that.  You need to select a wire gauge that will give you a suitable resistance for the length of wire you use to create the coil for impedance matching to maximize power transfer to the WFC.  And do some research into the reactance of capacitors and coils.

You really should measure each tube pair of your water cell and make sure that they are very close to equal values as you can reasonably get them.  Then add up their capacitances using the equation for capacitors in series which should be the total value of your WFC.
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Re: 6watts and 8 liters HHO per minute...........
« Reply #217 on: December 12, 2018, 04:27:31 am »
Does the resonance feed back and drive the Primary like Puharich?
This is the drive I get from the feedback off of one leg of Puharich.
I think anyaways....just tryn to learn so try not be 2 mean :)

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Re: 6watts and 8 liters HHO per minute...........
« Reply #218 on: December 12, 2018, 13:22:39 pm »
That could eventually be added to it, but isn't necessary to get it going.

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Re: 6watts and 8 liters HHO per minute...........
« Reply #219 on: December 12, 2018, 19:25:15 pm »
Timeshell I measured 1 pair of tubes in both ways and the capacitance is rhe same, as expected. I really dont understand your point. It just dont make sense to me.

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Re: 6watts and 8 liters HHO per minute...........
« Reply #220 on: December 12, 2018, 19:37:55 pm »
Unless the surface diameter of the inside of the outer tube is EXACTLY the same as the surface diameter of the outside of the inner tube, this really shouldn't be the case.

This is the kind of capacitance meter I am using:
https://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?catId=200215818&initiative_id=AS_20181212103957&SearchText=lc100-a

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Re: 6watts and 8 liters HHO per minute...........
« Reply #221 on: December 12, 2018, 20:04:15 pm »
Im using an uni-t lcr meter.

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Re: 6watts and 8 liters HHO per minute...........
« Reply #222 on: December 13, 2018, 01:55:46 am »
Im using an uni-t lcr meter.

Youre not forming a good capacitor then maybe?
2 cents aint worth a nickle i know but ....
Timeshell makes complete sense with that.

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Re: 6watts and 8 liters HHO per minute...........
« Reply #223 on: December 13, 2018, 02:17:28 am »
Not all capacitance meters are as accurate as they should be.  Ronnie referred me to the type I have the link for.  I'll make a video showing it working soon.

A reminder that not only should the reading be different in both directions, but you actually want it that way.  Otherwise, you won't have a difference in the chokes and then you will end up completely blocking the current which you don't want to do.
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