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Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
« Reply #48 on: December 18, 2016, 16:13:58 pm »
Found another post on a forum from a certain Willy:

Anderson suposedly used a 0.5 to 1 psi honeywell switch it was said that it could be heard cutting off and on while going down the road and at stop times he mentions that he used a blower fan ducted into the cell, it makes me wonder if he had a ionzer in with the blower. It also talkes about the 13 inch round cell having holes in the very center where the high voltage was connected there is a pdf online that shows the system and tells four or five pages on the cell. I have a gut feeling that the car was real just because my uncle was a stand up guy and he was hooked on the idea after seeing it in person.

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Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
« Reply #49 on: December 18, 2016, 16:14:24 pm »
Another post by a certain Bob Boyce

I personally examined the electronics and system used by Herman Anderson. The US DoE (Dept of Energy) would certainly not allow such a system to be used on a passenger vehicle, especially with Homeland Security around these days, due to the high risk of radioactive tritium generation. He was given a personal exemption due to his expertise, and the fact that he had worked for the governement in the specialized field of ionics.

The Herman Anderson car used a basic 3" length of plastic pipe with 13" round metal plates. Pretty much a drum electrolyser to generate the hydroxy gas, using fairly high current pulsed DC. The timing circuit ran at 15 Hz, with the pulse train run through a flip-flop. The two outputs at 7.5 hz each were fed to alternating loads, one was the switching for the pulsed DC driving the cell itself, and the other was the switching for pulsing the car coils. The output of the car coils was directed to a length of ignition wire that was wrapped like a coil around the perimeter of the cell drum, then terminating into a spark gap to the outside of the electrode plate. His electrodes were plated mild steel in order to obtain his desired magnetic effects while retaining chemical resistance to the base electrolyte.

As Herman was an expert in ionics, his goal was to bump up the energy level of the hydrogen to deuterium as simply as possible. While the simple setup can seem to be misleading to those that do not understand radiolysis. The combined effect of the extreme high voltage, and the spark gap, is to create both very sharp charge gradient impulses, and electromagnetic impulses, to irradiate the electrolyte and gas. So while he speaks of radiation, it is not the sort of radioactivity that one would require the use of heavy shielding for. The EMI produced would pretty much be contained by the metal shielding of a closed hood and crowded engine compartment. As long as the voltage was maintained in the correct range, deuterium production could be maximized while tritium production could be minimized.

Yes, there was a water fog injection system. The use of water fog allows for an additional amount of thermally expansive mass to be inducted into the engine, as the water fog will absorb energy during combustion and flash to steam.

There are a lot of similarities in the method that Herman Anderson used, and in the method that Stanley Meyer used in one of his systems.

Bob Boyce

More of Bob on Anderson

Just a single reference should be enough to get the wheels turning in your mind. I really do feel that you are intelligent enough to take it from there, but can you overcome your natural tendency to just dismiss everything you do not immediately understand as fantasy.

Isotope separation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Scroll down to "Alternatives":

"The only alternative to isotope separation is to manufacture the required isotope in its pure form. This may be done by irradiation of a suitable target, but care is needed in target selection and other factors to ensure that only the required isotope of the element of interest is produced."

You seem to grasp part of the concept of pumping matter to higher energy states, now all you need to do is make the connection that photons are just another form of EM radiation. And yes, isomeric and isotopic changes to matter CAN be driven via EM irradiation. Sometimes it takes multiple wavelengths at the same time in order to obtain a desired effect. Sometimes phase is not important, sometimes it is, it depends upon the goal.

And more:

If you would refer again to the link I posted, and scroll down to "Alternatives", then you would see that irradiation to create a desired isotope is an ALTERNATIVE to seperation.

Surely you are not so niave as to believe that even distilled water is so pure as to contain no other elements besides the bound hydrogen and oxygen. Or that matter cannot be broken down and reformed via application of energies. If so, then I am likely wasting my time.

Matter is energy. If one can learn how to interfere with the energy matrix of that matter, one can alter that matter. The simplest patterns are the components that make up the smallest components in atoms. Hydrogen is the most abundant element in the universe because the hydrogen atom has the simplest energy matrix of all atoms. Therefore, it is also the easiest atom to alter.

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Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
« Reply #50 on: December 18, 2016, 17:46:19 pm »
Well heavy water can be made with centrifugal force and even maybe gravitational force

All you get to do is to get the water from the bottom than refill with fresh water  and collect more again

Heavy water is heavier so it stays on the bottom of the reservoir

Unless we open a wormhole is not possible to simply transform hydrogen into deuterium it takes one more proton for this to happen you won't toss out a proton from no where.

It seem to me this description is not very scientific,.... 


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Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
« Reply #51 on: December 18, 2016, 21:16:16 pm »
bolt: large (1/2") short (2") bolt

The grey box is a Honeywell LP gas pressure switch. When the gas pressure rises to a certain level, for instance, when the car is at idle, the switch turns off power to the chamber. As I said, I think Dingel's Toyota has a similar arrangement. The girl interviewing him as she's driving the car asks what the "clicking" noise is, and he replies that it is the intermittent production of gas.

The pcv "T" pipe on top is similar to what's under your kitchen sink, except that it has a baffle inside it to route the gas rising from the chamber to the right, towards the gas pressure switch and the regulator and on to the carburetor. The fact that he used an oversized fragile piece of plastic pipe at this critical juncture could have been a deliberate attempt to reduce the seriousness of an unwanted explosion. If you have another explanation, please offer it.

The yellow hose connected to the left side of the PVC "T" pipe, and controlled by a red valve, is connected to the heater blower housing, as if he was using the existing heater blower as a type of supercharger, the flow of air controlled by the red valve. I can't say for sure that this was the way it was used, it may not have been used at all. But it is siliconed in place in such a way that it was obviously done with a purpose in mind. Could it be that a slight positive flow of air is essential to making this type of induction system work? Maybe to keep the chamber gas pressure from being the only source of pressure? To force a mixture of gases into the intake? Please comment on this if you can venture a guess.

The removable cap on the vertical PVC pipe is for refilling the chamber and checking the pH of the electrolyte. Electrolyte solution pH 12, KOH added to deionized or ozonated water. The vertical PVC is connected to the chamber by...

The 3/4" clear plastic tubing that acts as the convection cooling system. It connects to the chamber at the 3:00 and 6:00 positions by 3/4" male nylon barbed fittings and to the vertical PVC pipe, high and low, so that one of the laws of thermodynamics can do its thang. (Remember, this is the South).

There is a threaded PVC plug at the 9:00 position of the chamber; it doesn't appear to have been used.
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Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
« Reply #52 on: December 18, 2016, 21:27:51 pm »
Here is Anderson's account of the workings of his latest experiment:
Situated in a back corner of his car's engine compartment is a reservoir of ionized water, into which positive and negative electric terminals are placed.
When a charge is sent throught the water, the water molecules - H2O - split.
The oxygen atoms cling to the positive electrode while the hydrogen atoms, in an ionized state, are conducted through the solution to the negative plate.
There, the hydrogen atoms recombine under an electrical charge to produce H2 - hydrogen gas - which is collected and directed through a LP gas carburator into the manifold for distribution to the cylinders.
Also at the manifold, a fine mist of distilled water is injected.
"The water expands as steam when the gas ignites and gives the piston a good solid push all the wa down," Anderson said. "It's much more powerful than a gasoline engine."
Besides the increased horsepower, which has been measured on a dynamometer, Anderson contends that the engine runs about 20% cooler and produces only water vapor and nitrous oxide - laughing gas - as emissions.
The entire alternative fuel system has been intricately coordinated with the conventional carburator and timing system, making it possible to switch fuel sources while the engine is running, Anderson demonstrated with a toggle switch on the car's dashboard.
Anderson who sas he has been inventing since age 12, further demonstrated the engine by disconnecting the gasoline fuel lines and allowing the engine to deplete the fuel left in the carburator. He then switched on the electricity to the hydrogen gas generator and restarted the motor.
The automated system of colorful wires, tubes and water tanks under the hood of Anderson's green and white Ford sedan can be put together by anyone who has the right information and about $300.
The items that Anderson did not fashion himself from tubing and valves can be purchased from automobile parts stores that carry components for propane powered engines, Anderson said.
"That's why I waited so long to tell anyone about it," Anderson smiled. "I feel like I'm protected as bast as I can with my patent applications."

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Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
« Reply #53 on: December 18, 2016, 23:15:00 pm »
Probably the water mist is for reducing the detonation speed of the gas...

I found  on Wikipedia that one on every 3200 molecules In Natural water one is deuterium oxide

So if you get a huge water tower you make lot of heavy water

One every 3200 mean if you get 3000 liters of water you get one liter of deuterium oxide in it

Deuterium is residue on electrolysis when there water and according to Stan it must be flushed out

Rain water should have less heavy water where deep ocean water should have the most

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Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
« Reply #54 on: December 22, 2016, 21:48:34 pm »
Tomorrow i am back in my home country where i will meet my welder. He does that for years now and is very supportive for my projects.
I am very happy that he is still there.
He will weld the bolds on the soft iron plates / electrodes.
I made a hole in one of them as described by Kevin.
After welding i will prep the electrodes for nickel plating.
Step by step.....

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Re: My Herman Anderson replication project
« Reply #55 on: December 31, 2016, 15:02:21 pm »
I am a happy man. The welder did a great job.
My both electrodes are done, except for the plating and the prep for the plating.

So, now another issue: the 70kV and 11mA. U=I*R means 70000V / 0.011 = 6,363,636 ohm
Normal ignition coils have a resistance of 10,500 ohms
If you use two coils, then you have 21,000 ohms
Not even close to the 6363,636 ohms.....
Does anybody have ideas on this?